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  • sunny1000
    12-13 05:30 PM
    Note that it would certainly not benefit the other 60%+ from countries other than India that are also stuck in various steps (EB3, name check). So, unless you want IV to stand for IndiaVoice, you should concentrate your admirable effort on increasing the overall quota (with increased per-country quota), excluding dependents, etc.

    Well said!





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  • gman
    08-03 09:21 PM
    I am EB3-ROW with PD of Feb 2006. My I-140 (filed as systems analyst) is approved and I filed my I4285 in Aug 16, 2007 (RD). I have approved EAD and AP good until Nov 21, 2008. I have been offered a job as Director of Software Development at another company in the same state. Because my I-485 has been pending for over 180 days I'm assuming I should be able to take the job under AC21. The new job seems a natural progression to my career (a promotion of course) but the USCIS has not issued definite guidelines on how to define a "similar" job. What's your advice on this? Should I take the job?

    Thanks,





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  • PlainSpeak
    01-14 12:58 PM
    don't make up your own sorry, sad, soap opera



    Your first mistake is criticizing IV and its strategy on a open forum. The core listens to only ideas from active volunteers and donors and incorporates their suggestions, not a free loader, day dreamer who thinks he/she is brilliant. What any one else says on forums doesn't make any difference.
    You think that by arguing on the forum, you can come up with a better idea.
    So in a way you're just throwing eggs at IV. All you talk for the last 2 days is just wasting everyones time.
    If you want IV to listen to you, you must have actively worked with them in the last 4 years, gained knowledge about advocacy and their trust and only then can they consider any of your ideas.
    You have clearly shown that you know nothing.
    This is a message for other members too, if you want core and management to listen to your ideas, be active in your state chapter and many mail groups we have working on intiatives, rather than cursing on forums.
    You will then be working on action items that can change the lives of legal immigrants for the better and make a big difference.
    don't make up your own sorry, sad, soap opera
    My friend a correct it is not mine but it is a sad reflection of your story

    Your first mistake is criticizing IV and its strategy on a open forum. The core listens to only ideas from active volunteers and donors and incorporates their suggestions, not a free loader, day dreamer who thinks he/she is brilliant. What any one else says on forums doesn't make any difference.
    Ahhh my friend no one is asking for core to implement this suggestion. The suggestion was for discussion. Now all we had is name calling but no dicsussion. I hve not had even one esteemed member and donort and volunteer explain to me why this idea is a bad idea

    You think that by arguing on the forum, you can come up with a better idea.
    My friend for an idea yes discusiion is needed. Now once the idea is agreed upon it has to be fleshed out. That is when people get inv,loved in doing the ground work and i knwo i could go aon and on burt what is the use of talking about a house bluepritn when all guys are willing able and ready to do is tear up the idea in a ferezy

    So in a way you're just throwing eggs at IV. All you talk for the last 2 days is just wasting everyones time.
    Eggs at IV?? My friend if my intention was naything i would have been much worse. But i stil have hope in you all. At some point of time tempers will cool down and people will start thinking rationally

    If you want IV to listen to you, you must have actively worked with them in the last 4 years, gained knowledge about advocacy and their trust and only then can they consider any of your ideas.
    You have clearly shown that you know nothing.
    Yes i did not work because i choose not to. Evrybody started as a fresher in any xcareer. No body was born experienced. Now you can take this point as my plunge into IV work but noooooo you do not want a person with a different idea. You want a slave who wil lsay Yes Master and do your bidding.


    This is a message for other members too, if you want core and management to listen to your ideas, be active in your state chapter and many mail groups we have working on intiatives, rather than cursing
    on forums.
    Who is cursing on forum. If you read through the messages again you people are cursing and i am patiently replying back to each and every one

    You will then be working on action items that can change the lives of legal immigrants for the better and make a big difference.
    My friend i will not jump into a hole in the ground if i am a sheep and the hole contains 100 wolfs baying for blood(yes that would be all you abusers). Since we are talking about actionable idea let me talk about something

    When i started this topic i had about 800 + points. When i last checked i have now - 2000 points. All these given by people like you (All these donors and senior members). Now you are asking me for specific details of my plan and my thinking is they heard the plan and got so pissed off that they started abusing me very badly and gave me so many reds that it must be a IV record and now uyou get a brain wave and i am supposed to tell specifics of my plan. What conditions are you as a IV member creating for me discussing my ideas. NOTHING. So that would mean you have no interest in listening to what i say but are just acting nice so that all thiose silent readers of the post will not notice this and think that you are doing great





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  • vdlrao
    09-15 12:17 PM
    This is the monthwise total for Only PERM for India for year 2005 and 2006.

    Month EB (INDIA) # Approved
    Jan,05 0
    Feb,05 0
    Mar,05 1
    Apr,05 24
    May,05 133
    June,05 535
    July,05 794
    Aug,05 1313
    Sep,05 1316
    Oct,05 1212
    Nov,05 1541
    Dec,05 1771
    Jan,06 1788
    Feb,06 1729
    Mar,06 2224
    Apr,06 1635
    May,06 1876
    June,06 1902
    July,06 1574
    Aug,06 1317
    Sep,06 963

    PERM 2005 (All EB2+EB3) for India is 8640
    PERM upto Sep 2006 (2+3) for india is 15008
    So the movement depends on the spillover to EB2 india. I assume if it is in the range of 15 to 20K then it will move upto mid of 2006 by end of 2010 for sure.

    If the spill over is in the range > 20K to EB2 india then it will go to September 2006.

    How did you say that are Only EB2+ EB3?



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  • ita
    03-30 01:08 AM
    Snathan,Arkbird

    Please do understand MMS brought economic reforms when he was finance minister in P.V Narasimha Rao's govt.People thought country would see the same in 2004 when MMS was made PM. But Sonia Gandhi didn't give him that freedom.We didn't see any reforms in these 5 years.

    Opting for MMS is like saying I won't take Sonia/Rahul but would take them if they came with a wrapper called MMS. That's what MMS is.

    All those voting for MMS in the poll might as well vote for Rahul if you are bent on only congress party for communal/other reasons of your own.

    MMS is not even fighting these elections.As per congress party sources Sonia doesn't want to announce Rahul as PM candidate because if congress loses then Rahul has to take the blaim(which will affect his charisma..huh our leaders run not qualifications but charisma and even urban/rural people fall for that).If congress wins MMS will be replaced with Rahul citing health or some other issue within no time.
    I can understand rural masses but educated skilled people falling for the tactics of unskilled Sonia is something.No wonder she is going great.





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  • dvb123
    02-15 10:59 AM
    There have been some class actions in Employment based category. Have to research more on these.

    http://www.immigrationlinks.com/news/news269.htm



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  • Ramba
    07-17 12:24 PM
    Yes, horizontal spill-over gives preference to EB Category. But the vertical spillover didnt promote diversity. It just ensured that the applicant with the oldest PD was allotted the first available spill-over visa number irrespective of his EB category or country of origin. This just ensured that someone doesnt wait too long. as you know, most of the vertical spillovers were consumed by EB3-India and china. Then, how can it promote diversity.

    to make it simple, here is my understanding

    Vertical spill over --> PD precedes EB category and Country of Origin
    Horizontal spill over --> EB Category precedes PD and country of origin.

    Thanks,
    gcisadawg

    Before AC21 law, both India and China gets only 3000 EB2 visas (7% of 40000). The remaining unused visas in EB2 goes to EB3 worldwide catagory, NOT TO EB3-India. After AC21 law, all the 40,000 EB2 visas are made available to EB2 catagory, irrespective of country of orgin. In either case EB3-I will get same 3000 visas. There is no difference for EB3-I, before and now. EB3-India will always get only 3000 visas per year till EB3-ROW become current.





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  • perm2gc
    10-24 11:06 AM
    If you join Microsoft , you might get less salary but they pay your insurance 100%. Is microsoft selling insurance to you?? its just a benefit/perk being an employee of microsoft.

    same thing here too... pre-approved labor is just a perk/benefit offered by employer to hire you with less salary. so if you think you sacrificed your salary to get to cut the line for getting GC then you are thinking right.if not please stop thinking like socialist.

    It all about money and business brother.
    We have so much discussion on this topic in many threads but i dont know why people want to discuss samething again and again.

    We know LC substituion is good for few and worst for many...

    Admins can you please close the thread...



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  • addsf345
    05-29 04:21 PM
    If you guys had a chance of getting substitute labor today you will try to take it at any cost. But you will not want to contribute $25 to IV. If you had a chance of getting a greencard via L1A route you will do it. Just because you cannot get a substitute labor or L1A, you are saying sour grapes.

    This is a bitter truth that we do not like to hear but each will do if they get a chance. Sub labor was legal when it was there and L1A route is also legal today. It is for USCIS to decide if there is a loophole. Stop behaving like an anti-immigrant. Just because you are not able to get this privilege does not mean others cannot try. If you want to try, try to get more visas for everyone rather than blocking people.

    well said. Our main problem is country quota. some one posted a nice thread, I guess the title was something like 'is being born in INDIA a bad karma???" - I always remember that. No one should be punished for having been born in certain country.

    Having said that, one my very good friend tried to form state IV chapter and contacted around 20 Desis who are on EAD and in the same boat as rest of us. As united the indians are, none of the 20 showed any interest in joining IV or fighting for their right using civil democratic way. People just dont' want to do anything. They are fine with wait times. So I guess this is the fate.

    On a side note, in our company there are ppl from other countries having got GC in a year, in front of our eyes, still no awareness, no courage, no unity, no initiative. God Bless Retrogression.





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  • sundarraj61
    09-29 12:43 PM
    Hi Kukitron and all,
    I am having a new h1b with validity 7/2009. But My Visa expired by Aug,2006. Please clarify, can i travel from canada to Seattle thro Road with the expired visa and the new h1b which contains a valid I-94

    Thanks
    Sundar

    I just arrived yesterday from Canada with an expired Visa and my extension notice from INS.

    Unfortunatly, they officer was an ignorant pig without any knowledge about immigration. Luckily, I was sent to an office where officers were nice and well trained,

    I recommend you to print out the actual law so you can have more arguments and arrive earlier to the airport if you are flying



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  • PlainSpeak
    01-13 01:21 PM
    Few questions for the self proclaimed expert analyst who started this thread -
    1) How many lawmakers have you met to represent these provisions you claim to be so passionate about?
    2) Have you visited capitol hill and tried to understand what the congress thinks about EB legislation? I did - during the IV advocacy event last year with hundreds of eb2 and eb3 members.
    3) How many members here have you actually worked worked with? Because the people I know here who actually do the grass root work with me (both eb2 and eb3) do not care about theb category they belong to.

    I know you do not have any real responses...only abuses which you responded with on the other thread.
    Its funny how plainspeak is the one usually doling out the abuses but claims to be the victim.
    Few questions for the self proclaimed expert analyst who started this thread -
    1) How many lawmakers have you met to represent these provisions you claim to be so passionate about?
    2) Have you visited capitol hill and tried to understand what the congress thinks about EB legislation? I did - during the IV advocacy event last year with hundreds of eb2 and eb3 members.
    3) How many members here have you actually worked worked with? Because the people I know here who actually do the grass root work with me (both eb2 and eb3) do not care about theb category they belong to.

    I know you do not have any real responses...only abuses which you responded with on the other thread.
    Its funny how plainspeak is the one usually doling out the abuses but claims to be the victim.
    Ahhh my friend forever_waiting, how are you. It is good to see your reply to the post. Will be do this the civilized way or the old way??

    In direct response to your post

    First i am not a expert nor an analyst musch less a self proclaimed expert analyst. Take that as a given and we can procced further

    1) How many lawmakers have you met to represent these provisions you claim to be so passionate about?
    None because i do not believe in supporting, representing or furthering the agenda of an organization which has loop holes in it and is determental to my case

    2) Have you visited capitol hill and tried to understand what the congress thinks about EB legislation?
    I did - during the IV advocacy event last year with hundreds of eb2 and eb3 members.
    No i have not. Why do i need to visit capitol hill and view in person what congress thinks about EB legislation when i can do the same by watching CSPAN(I am a regular watcher expecially when there is something immigrant related going on. All a process of expanding my knowlesge of immigration or do you think i got up yesterday morning and decided that i want to fight with IV. If you did then i am sorry i gave you more credit then that. And please do not start a new thread about how lazy i am and how i want others to work for me and how i just want the benefit without effort. That would be old and stale. If there is something to be done in which i believe i will be the first to jump in and volunteer


    3) How many members here have you actually worked worked with? Because the people I know here who actually do the grass root work with me (both eb2 and eb3) do not care about theb category they belong to.
    YES and i never said you are not fair. I know EB2 and EB23 owkr toghether in IV. My efforts of meeting people have been made outside the scope of what you and others do. I am being modest when i say this but i was the first person in my company to make generate awareness about what IV did and how it is helping immigrants like us and encouraged them to visit the website and read about what IV is all about. This is about 75 to 100 indains (EB2 and EB3) in an organization of size 500 during teh time period 2006 to 2007. Now most of them were EB2 so they got their green card and i am sure are no longer on the IV forum anymore. I am sure those who are still on IV forum are EB3 like me. How much they parrticipate, it is hard to tell. Maybe they were smarter than me and got dissalusioned with IV way before i did. They might be porting or they might not be for all i know
    Besides that i am pretty much regular on Murthy where i have provided advise or tried to help people with information whne i could (O f course all of this was H1B/ Visit Visa stuff). Even today on IV forum i am trying my level best to help peopl ewith information related to AOS/EAD/140/485 etc
    I am sorry because what i did till now is nowhere near what you and other IV volunteers are doing but i do what i can when i can.

    My friend forever_waiting, I hope i answered everything to your satisfaction

    As to the below
    I know you do not have any real responses...only abuses which you responded with on the other thread. Its funny how plainspeak is the one usually doling out the abuses but claims to be the victim. I am sorry i am done trying to explain it to you all over again. May god grant you wisdom





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  • poorslumdog
    09-04 12:12 PM
    Guys,

    Here is the list of people who recently died in my village. Let us all pray for their soul to rest in peace. Please understand that when we can pray for YSR..we can do for these people also. Every life has the same value...dont you agree..

    1. Rasu Devan
    2. Kenkai ammal
    3. Gandhi mathi (lady only).

    Please all do pray for the poor souls. From today onwords I will post all the dead people list in IV and let us all pray for them. Thanks for your support and prayer. Please let your freinds and family know about this and ask them to join in our prayer. Once again thanks guys.

    You are more than welcome to give red dots.



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  • gc_lover
    06-28 12:45 PM
    "expecting retrogresson ....in first wk of July... " ??
    I thought logiclife already clarified that can not and will not happen!!

    Yes, he did clarify. But, when rumors like that make it to reputed attorney's website it will surely cause panic among people.





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  • tempgc
    09-15 03:39 PM
    EB2 approval of LCA or 140 is almost next to impossible now. I can dare to say this.
    So consider new EB2ROW is almost negligible unless the one in the 140 stage get approved from EB2ROW (here also tough for approval but I can give chance to approval) come into the queue of EB2ROW.

    This is a very big assumption which impact the EB2I progress a lot.
    Also EB1 movement -- new EB1 filings should come down due to economy, so I see some EB1 numbers definitely more than previous year i.e 2009 coming to EB2.



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  • ita
    09-05 02:15 PM
    Since the Lord Jesus has given his Judgement , there's not much we can do about the supposedly great man but talk about his great deeds when he was alive.

    Apparently goons encouraged by the state started occupying the Sacred temple Simhachala lands left and right.Then after enough has been accumulated so called great man entered the scene saying govt is taking over the occupied lands ,which they started giving over to christian missionaries.Someone I know that visited their native place Visakha a month back brought this information .I was really amused all along about the helplessness of all the people like me.

    Of course like many there's many more incidents that I have heard about this so called great man.Like many I'm amazed with the articles coming in the media in last few days which are oozing with this desperation to pitch the guy into some kind of fame (albeit after death)





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  • TeddyKoochu
    09-15 05:09 PM
    The spillover magnitude and volume really holds the key to our future, does a quarterly spillover work out better for us, does it help generate more numbers? Looks like the spillover last year was random, how do we explain the date going back to 01-JAN-2000 for sometime before bouncing back? Looks like things are on solid ground this time as unlike the previous years as we did not see a rollback of dates in the Oct bulletin.



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  • chanduv23
    02-13 06:32 PM
    friends,

    you have 29 people in favor.
    great! each one needs to put their time and money where their mouths (mouses) are.

    i suggest: take up a collection, then go get top notch legal opinion.
    until you do this, no point going forward, this is going to be a very
    important step.

    c'mon folks step up...get a collection plate out and open your pockets.

    If we reach a critical mass of 50 people - "genuine" people - then it is a good start - the first step can be to look for the best lawyer for this kind of issue. This need not be an immigration lawyer if I am not wrong.

    A main team of 5 people can lead this and form a mailing list to include the interest parties.





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  • jackrabbit
    03-26 06:45 PM
    No, waiting for OMB clearance.

    And does this mean that this law will definitely change, or is it still possible that vested interests may still keep substition alive?





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  • alisa
    02-13 07:09 PM
    Man this is complicated. I agree with you.

    Any changes to the law have to be beneficial to all three IV constituents, i.e. EB-3 ROW, EB-2 India and EB-3 India.

    This is not a legal issue. And this is not an issue of morality.
    This is a political issue, and like all political issues, it involves self-interests of different groups. Those different groups have to come together, agree upon a common denominator, and work towards a common goal.

    As an example, all indications are that this summer, our fate would be tied with that of CIR. Core group would be working to make sure that laws beneficial to us are passed. However, we will have to work with the illegal aliens and try to get CIR passed. Its not fair that they have been here illegally, while we have been here legally. But it doesn't matter whats fair and what is not.

    What matters is that we got to work with them to achieve a common goal (CIR.) Likewise, the three constituents of this forum have to work together to achieve a common goal (relief for all.)

    Lets see how long it takes before I have to reiterate this point. The clock starts now.

    (a) INA 202(a)(3) states that the total number of visas available under both subsections (a) and (b) [...] exceeds the number of qualified immigrants [...] (2) shall not apply [...]. In your case, there are no excess visas available for FB immigrants.

    (b) INA 202(e) Special Rules for Countries at Ceiling. requires that additional visas are distributed according to the world-wide distribution across FB and EB categories. Of the 100 unused visas 77 would have to be alloted to FB, and only 22 to EB categories. Assuming a 1/3 distribution in EB categories EB1, EB2, EB3, 7 would go to EB2.

    If USCIS cannot follow this rule, those 100 visas would be unused for that fiscal year.

    With AC21, the 100 can be assigned to oversubscribed countries, if Visas are available, ie. demand in all categories is less than supply. With EB3-ROW retrogressed, that is not the case.

    Just the way I see it....





    yetanotherguyinline
    09-04 07:44 PM
    Admins - can some one please close this thread. This is thread is neither about immigration nor will anything good come out of this.





    immi_seeker
    09-15 02:39 PM
    Here are my Estimate of pending EB2 India case for give years

    <=2004 2000
    2005 10000
    2006 13000
    2007(july) 5000
    ==============
    Total 30000
    ==============

    This number is very close to Ron Gocthers number prediction a few months back (minus sept approvals).

    Collaboration on visa quota data/analysis - Page 6 - Immigration Information Discussion Forum (http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/general-immigration-questions/8419-collaboration-on-visa-quota-data-analysis-6.html)

    Pending as of 15 July 2009 145000
    EB2 50000
    EB3 94000
    EB2India (2.4/3.5 EB2) 35714

    We can use the LCA number and come close these numbers as well

    2005
    EB2 India LCA for 2005 = RIR (3000) + PERM (60% of 7290) ~ 7400
    Assuming 20% abandon applicant we get = 5900
    1.2 dependent per applicant give ~ 13000 I-485 applicantions
    Assuming 10% approved in 2008 and 10% rejected/abandon I-485 and 5% cross-charageability we get => pending 10000 pending I-485 application for 2005

    2006
    India PERM applications = 18000
    EB2 India PERM applications (60%) = 10800
    Assuming 20% abandon applicant we get = 8640
    1.2 dependent per applicant give ~ 19000 I-485 applicantions
    Assuming 10% approved in 2008 and 10% rejected/abandon I-485 and 10% cross-charageability we get => pending 13000 pending I-485 application for 2006

    So if we see spillover of more than 30K the date will move beyond July 2007.


    Considering the slow economy that spill over is reasonable.



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