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  • vdlrao
    07-18 08:19 PM
    this is not correct. ROW continues to get preference.
    what has changed is that for a while USCIS chose to interpret the law in a way that gave EB2 GC numbers (the law mandated 28.6%) to EB3 ROW rather than spill them over the EB2 I/C. now they have corrected that and EB2 numbers (which include any spillover from EB1) are first used in EB2 ie category numbers are given priority.

    so the bonus advantage that EB3 ROW got for 1-2 years has been withdrawn. however with EB3 retrogressed and with EB2 I/C retrogressed, EB3 ROW continues to get all EB3 numbers except the 7% each for the retrogressed nation states.

    i would also like to know where the 20K number is coming from if anyone has a source please share it.

    Hi Paskal,

    We dont have any official source of available visas for EB2 India as of now.
    But based on the information availale it seems there would be about 30k visas, which are about 10 times more than what its been now (3,267 VISAS for EB2 India), available for EB2 India. Even though China shares with us for these visas, it would be minimal for china sharing as because china had already a cutoff date of Jan 2006 by Jul 2007. EB2 India has to be current pretty soon as of the increase in visa numbers allotment to almost about 10 times due to the horizontal fallout.

    We need your inputs as well, on this calculation of estimated visas for EB2 India.



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    Originally Posted by sumagiri :

    There are some significant flaws in your analysis. If you correct them, the number comes to around 25K.

    First. The family spill over has to be applied to all categories. So the total number is 140,000 + 19,000.
    Second. You calculated EB1/2/3 gets 1/3 which is not correct. They use only 28.6% not 33.3% This makes difference.
    Third. The EB1+EB2 combined 70K already counted 9,800 visas for India. We should not add them again.

    According to USCIS/DOS testimonies they will usually end up using only 95% of total quota. They go conservatively because they must ensure that they won't use up even a single visa more than what law allows.So total available is approximately 159000*.95 = 151050
    Third. EB1, EB2, EB3 each will get 28.6%. Not one third (33.3%). That makes lot of difference. So each category will get around 43,200.
    EB4 and EB5 combined will get around 21,449

    Now again, going by statistics and your assumptions that EB1 and EB2 takes up 70K and EB4, EB5 takes up around 10K. The unused visas are

    ((43,200*2)+21,449) - (70,000+10000) = 27849.

    So the total EB2 visa usage will be around 70K + 25K =95K.


    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20167&highlight=vdlrao&page=7





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  • srikondoji
    06-27 04:22 PM
    nope. Columbus is illegal alien. He should be deported posthumously.:eek:
    Last one was good one from arihant.
    Lets move dates back to.......hmmm....when Columbus discovered America. Guys....Was Columbus on H1-B? Then he changed his status to Green Card....Gosh....dates were current when Columbus landed.....





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  • walking_dude
    02-14 09:37 AM
    hopefulgc - also make the commitments clear! Its not just sufficient to support ( as in moral support) the cause. Its important to participate in it.

    I think someone should change the Poll question to -

    Q) Do you commit to participate in a class action lawsuit against USCIS?

    1) Yes. I am willing to commit $500
    2) Yes. I'm willing to be a plaintiff ( full name and full contact info required)
    3) Yes. I'm willing to commit $500 and become a plaintiff as well
    4) No. I don't think it will work

    It will make it clear to everyone voting 'Yes' what's expected of them.

    hopefulgc - please dedicate some time and update your first post with more information on lawsuit, you may want to quote lazycis 's posts and other information.

    A lot of people may not be very knowledgable and may backoff when they see the word "lawsuit".

    Those who are saying YES on the poll - it is assumed that you will not backoff - if you have not yet updated your profile on IV - please update your complete profile - this will show that you can be counted on.





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  • smuggymba
    01-14 10:19 AM
    what the heck are you talking about. If there is any specific cases of abuse please contact the CIS and report those. Dont say "almost all" etc on this website. That might not be true and we dont want general statements like these to hurt the prospects of our members.

    I understand. But it's true. I have many friends and these body shoppers don't pay for their medical insurance and all of my friends have a tough time - even Kforce etc doesn't pay if you're a contractor directly hired by them. Infosys, TCS pays and provides all kinds of benefits for people on H1, I don't know what ppl are against companies that have good business practice.

    Deloitte, Accenture, IBM brings ppl from other countries on L1 - why balme Infosys, TCS.



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  • nixstor
    02-14 01:29 PM
    Watch and see how fast the Michigan government will start issuing DL to H1B holders and to those who has pending I-485.

    http://www.aclumich.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=567
    https://www.aclumich.org/pdf/licensecomplaint.pdf

    Just a FYI, MI law only does not allow DL's for new applicants.

    Existing F1's/H1B's and those who already filed for 485's can keep renewing it.

    That said, I understand that you are using it as an analogy to say that the lawsuit against USCIS is successful.





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  • jonty_11
    05-09 02:49 PM
    Dont worry, just foolow intructions on cic.ga.ca and you will be fine.
    If you miss any document, they will send all ur paperwork back. If they accept it they will send a letter with a Tracking/case number.

    Its much better and streamlined for people who reside in US. Just apply, lets all go to Canada..I think thats what US of A wants and deserves.



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  • NolaIndian32
    02-13 11:09 AM
    What is ROW and POW, please? I have seen both used in several posts (I am hoping POW is not Prisoner of War:)) Still learning the immigration lingo!





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  • geesee
    07-30 09:59 AM
    When people with PD June 15 2006 will get the greencard???

    after the people with PD Nov 27 2004 gets it :D



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  • BharatPremi
    12-14 05:46 PM
    Then the numbers get distributed among those few countries that produces required skilled labor. To some extent, I thought this is already happening!!:rolleyes:

    Imagine the situation 3 countries supplying 90% of required labor and rest of the world 10%... This 7% limit screws things there. If US can find laboe "Equally" from every hemisphere and evry country.. 7% limit will work without a question. Otehrwise it would not work and hurt the economy badly.





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  • satyasaich
    09-23 11:53 AM
    My friend
    I'm a home owner, bought a home in 2005 and still on H1B.
    But let's not complicate the efforts because i'm not sure how much it will help to clear the mess of retrogression
    Correct me if i were wrong and missing something

    Current homeowners who are waiting for their GC MUST also be exempted from cap. This clause has to be there. Without having any gurantee of getting GC these folks have invested their savings in buying home even when the prices were high, WHY because they had real intent of making US their permanent home. So these people should too be exempted from EB cap.



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  • kumjay
    06-27 01:04 PM
    I would love to ask Lou Dobbs the same question!!

    Three facts, followed by one interpretation.

    First: several members (incl self) have checked with their own lawyers and these lawyers tend to agree with the common interpretation of validity for entire month. And at least some of these are lawyers with many years of practice.

    Second: Fragomen, the largest immigration law firm, on its website mentions the mid-month possibility; so while there is no government source, the whole topic cannot be dismissed as an unfounded rumor.

    Third: Macaca keeps cutting and pasting from the ombudsman's report in many different colors.

    My interpretation:
    The mid-month concept seems to be a matter of opinion. Multicolor posts notwithstanding, there's nothing official on this matter so far. (I emailed the state department seeking an answer; not surprisingly, I haven't heard back. If anyone else can get something from the horse's mouth, then post it here. If you can get stuff only from the other end of the horse, then maybe there's isn't much pointing in driving a general panic.)





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  • conchshell
    07-29 12:52 PM
    More and more, I see people posting messages containing the unspoken assumption that since the Indian E2 cutoff date has moved forward, it is likely to move forward further in the coming months. This is a false hope.


    I personally feel it all depends on how USCIS is gonna process the cases during August 2008.

    When Ron writes about the new EB2 India quota for 2008, he does not mention spill over to EB 2 India from EB1 category. Which is a very important aspect behind the prediction given by optimists like vdlrao and others.

    However at the same time, if USCIS does not bring its act together and we end up wasting the visas once again ( it highly unlikely that consular visa posts will assign 20 to 40K visas in next two months ... Are there so many people going with CP route??) the dates for EB2 India will retrogress but certainly not to an extent that they go back to 2003. There will be a mild retrogression and EB2 India date may come back to April 2004. However, later on they will progress further because of new years quota and spillover from EB1.



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  • hibworker
    09-15 02:57 PM
    Since EB2-I is slowly catching up with EB2-C, future spill overs will be split between the two categories and not all will go to EB2-I.





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  • vdlrao
    07-25 11:46 AM
    vdlrao i really appreciate you analysis and confidence on feature of EB2..can i know your category and nationality?:D

    Mine is EB2 India. I have a confidence on EB3 India as well but it takes about 2 years.



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  • eb2waiter
    05-09 05:01 PM
    for those in US GC and thinking of applying to canadian pr...

    DONT DO IT !!!

    You just end up spending around 3k-6k for you and your dependants, and it will go unused since you are waiting for US GC.

    the best way for canadian shit is to go back to India when you are sure you will not get the US GC. You can then think of canadian PR from India.

    The canadian government just takes your money and you dont get jobs easily. Most of the jobs are for people with job experience "INSIDE CANADA".

    India is a good place to shit too. Your daily toilet does not HAVE to be in some other country if the restrooms in US are closed forever.

    ---DISCLAIMER: ABOVE ARE MY VIEWS ONLY AND MAY BE FALSE---





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  • bskrishna
    07-23 11:46 AM
    I have seen nos upto 25k per month. So depends on how many resources are working on this as to the naturalization apps...



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  • waiting4gc
    02-13 02:30 PM
    Couldn't agree with you more.

    What ever gave you the idea that EB ROW only wait for 3 years? There's this common misconception flying around here that somehow ROW just cruises by and we get GC handed to us on a platter when in fact up until yesterday EB-3 ROW was just as retrogressed as any other category not to mention that labor (pre PERM) and name check delays affected ROW just as much as everyone else. For instance, my brother, who is EB3-ROW with a PD of Dec 2002... and has been in the US since early 2000 and is still waiting in line...so do the math.

    We're all in this crap together, some worse than others... so let's stop with this ROW Vs India & China nonsense. Country quotas are unfair and frankly the entire GC process is unfair and unpredictable... We should aim for solutions that solve this issue in a comprehensive way, not by dividing us even further.





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  • cal_dood
    07-24 07:55 PM
    No offense buddy. I am sure these are all valid points. We've all had similar experiences.

    But I always find it ironical...you read blogs on cnn-ibn by Indians, who say 'I'll leave this country if Sonia Gandhi becomes PM/ if Mayawati becomes PM/fill in the blanks". Then you read posts here about people ready to go back to India, or go to Canada. The funniest ones are who say "I love my India" and then start a thread about how to emigrate to Canada/UK/Australia/NZ. So basically it is "anywhere but India" ?

    It's always a tough decision to emigrate to another country. I wonder if people also take into consideration the politics in US, the war, the biased media in this country when making this decision - or is it just about $$$$ ?

    Its not the question of economy alone. When deciding to go back. Its a question about convenience.

    a) I don't want to stand in line to pay my Electric/Telephone/House Tax/Income Tax/Train Ticket/Air Ticket/Bus Ticket/Children Admission-donations/Petrol Line/LP Gas Line/Restaurant Line/Chola Bhatura Line/Samosa Line/RTO Office line/Registration line/License Line/Stock Buy line/Stock Sell Line/Bank Deposit Line/Bank Draft Line/Fixed Deposit Line/Kisaan Vikas Patra Line/Registered/Speed post Line/Blue Dart Line/Company registration line/College admission line/College fee line/University degree line/Interview Line/Booking a Car line/Beer Whisky Line/Canteen Line.

    Half the country stands in line, the other half manages the line. Neither has any civic sense.

    b) I don't want to bribe babus who manage above lines to get ahead in line.

    d) I don't want power failures/cooler failures/ac failures/broken roads/or other catastrophic system failures.

    e) I dont want fake or mixed eating oil / flour / milk / cheese / butter / peppers / lentils / rice

    f) I don't want dangerous chemical fertilizers in my produce (slow killers - massive kidney failure rate in India for past 10 years)

    g) I don't want to teach my children dishonesty and tricks of survival/street smartness (in ref to corruption in India) which don't add any value to their personality.

    h) The only reason I would wanna go back is for my immediate family and friends. Thats the only thing I miss when it comes to India.

    I wouldn't go back and I believe even MK Gandhi himself would'nt leave from Africa for India in todays times.

    Also Its the enemy within (corruption) which can cause great harm and we have that kind of enemy now. You can never ever change the attitudes which people carry in India without another revolution.

    I am sure I can come up with a huge list of positives too, They will sound very good and will give me a great feeling of fake National Pride.

    Now go ahead and kill me for saying all the above.!!





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  • kommisetty
    09-24 05:13 PM
    Greate Idea and fully support it even thought i may or may not buy a house for GC. Atlease the wating line will be reduced if it works out.

    Sent e-mails to all that are there in the spread sheet.





    thomachan72
    05-09 08:59 PM
    Please experts on Canada vs US situation help with this.

    A person lets say makes 100000 in US. His approx take home (after tax) would be lets say 70000, right? How much would he have to make in canada (Montreal) to keep par or do better than the salary in US. This is to understand the tax structure. Please try to give atleast three scenarios--
    Bachelor, married filing joint, married filing joint with dependents. Thanks.





    logiclife
    01-23 04:32 PM
    http://news.mainetoday.com/updates/008785.html

    NEWARK, N.J. - A business owner from India was sentenced Monday to 20 months in federal prison for helping hundreds of immigrants live and work illegally in New Jersey and elsewhere in the United States.

    Narendra Mandalapa must also forfeit $5.7 million and two luxury cars - deemed to be proceeds of his crimes - and pay a $25,000 fine, under the penalties imposed by U.S. District Judge Dickinson R. Debevoise.

    Mandalapa, 36, was owner and president of Cybersoftec Inc., a business consulting firm based in Edison in 2004 and 2005.
    Cybersoftec also claimed offices in Portland, Maine, and
    in New Hampshire, and obtained more than 150 certifications in the two states for temporary work visas in 2004 and 2005 through the U.S. Department of Labor, the Portland Press Herald reported.

    Cybersoftec, according to Maine Department of Labor records, also filed about 50 labor-certification applications in Maine for green cards, which allow foreigners to live and work in the U.S. indefinitely.

    Mandalapa had pleaded guilty to immigration fraud, admitting that he got up to $22,000 from immigrants to file fraudulent documents. Those included I-140s, which are petitions for an alien worker to become a lawful U.S. resident.

    Mandalapa has been in custody since his arrest Nov. 3, 2005. His lawyer, Bruno Bier, said Mandalapa will get credit for his 14 months of confinement and will spend about six months in prison before he will likely face deportation proceedings.

    None of the indictments on 29 counts of immigration fraud, money laundering and mail fraud related to his applications for green cards were linked to activities in Maine. Mandalapa pleaded guilty to one count as part of a plea bargain.

    Bier said Cybersoftec is no longer in business.

    Our message to Narendra "Nick" Mandalapa : Enjoy prison. Maybe on the inside, you can sell contraband items just like on the outside you sold approved labor certs.

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    Like someone said on the news article thread, the only difference between this guy and other desi companies (Desi means "of Indian origin") is that this guy got caught, while hundreds of other companies still sell approved labor certs with earlier priority dates.

    And all this illegal trade is much to the delight of AILA, who is pushing hard to keep labor substitution alive.

    What's in it for AILA? : Additional business of labor substitution. Now, for a few extra pennies, AILA would not hesitate to screw thousands of GC applicants waiting in line and enable the "Cutting in line" that happens due to labor substitution.

    So if you think AILA is a friend of immigrants (legal or illegal), think again. Its a friend of $$$. And there is nothing wrong with that. Everyone pursues self-interest. That is what AILA is doing. But dont misunderstand AILA as a champion of immigrants (legal or illegal). It represents immigration lawyers, not immigrants. On a rare occassion, the interests overlap, and that's good. But on many issues, AILA has a history of being very very employer friendly as far as immigration law is concerned, even if it comes at the cost of employees(immigrants).



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