pbojja
10-12 03:15 PM
This is the note I send them when I m in the call and Prakash noticed this and read this on the call . I m happy that major issue got noticed because there are lot of questions which are not related to receipt delays
Just to answer your question . Most callers are July 2nd applications who have not received the receipts ..where as others who filed in August are receving EAD's . This is why we are here . We can send n examples regarding this
Just to answer your question . Most callers are July 2nd applications who have not received the receipts ..where as others who filed in August are receving EAD's . This is why we are here . We can send n examples regarding this
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seekerofpeace
10-06 04:40 PM
Guys,
As you know my wife got approved yesterday I received her CPO mail I checked the new funky website of USCIS case status and she was at the last DOT that of card production ordered....so we heaved a sigh of relief.....BTW I was approved on Sept 3rd and I am still at Post Decision Circle....
Today we got another mail from USCIS....Notice mailed welcoming applicant blah blah...you may get card in 60 days barring any ADIT processing blah blah....and her status in that funky website moved backward two holes to "Decision" hole...
Strange ain't it...I hope it does not move backward any further for any of us...
Strange are the ways of USCIS
As you know my wife got approved yesterday I received her CPO mail I checked the new funky website of USCIS case status and she was at the last DOT that of card production ordered....so we heaved a sigh of relief.....BTW I was approved on Sept 3rd and I am still at Post Decision Circle....
Today we got another mail from USCIS....Notice mailed welcoming applicant blah blah...you may get card in 60 days barring any ADIT processing blah blah....and her status in that funky website moved backward two holes to "Decision" hole...
Strange ain't it...I hope it does not move backward any further for any of us...
Strange are the ways of USCIS
syedn
09-09 09:04 AM
I wanted to put down the various steps I undertook or have happened since my PD got current in hopes that it might help anybody...
PD: Nov 2005 EB2 @ NSC got current in August.
We were in India when my wife got a FP notice in July. Missed it completely but was lucky that the lawyer realized we were on vacation and requested a postponement of FP appointment.
The original FP appointment notice was for July 7th and we never received a second appointment notice until Aug 20th.
In the meanwhileI travelled back to USA and opened SRs, Infopass and sent emails to NSC, Opended an Ombudsman inquiry, contacted senators separately for myself and for my wife. I got GC approval on August 10th.
My wife had her FP taken on Sept 3rd and today we received CPO email for her too. Good luck to all who are waiting and I suggest do everything you can like SRs, emails, contacting senators, ombudsman inquiry, infopass appts. Not sure what worked.
My Main conern was that my AOS (principal applicant) would be stalled because my spouse (dependent) had expired FPs and we missed an appointment. Apparently this turned out not to be the case.
Thanks IV for a lot of useful information. All the best to everybody.
PD: Nov 2005 EB2 @ NSC got current in August.
We were in India when my wife got a FP notice in July. Missed it completely but was lucky that the lawyer realized we were on vacation and requested a postponement of FP appointment.
The original FP appointment notice was for July 7th and we never received a second appointment notice until Aug 20th.
In the meanwhileI travelled back to USA and opened SRs, Infopass and sent emails to NSC, Opended an Ombudsman inquiry, contacted senators separately for myself and for my wife. I got GC approval on August 10th.
My wife had her FP taken on Sept 3rd and today we received CPO email for her too. Good luck to all who are waiting and I suggest do everything you can like SRs, emails, contacting senators, ombudsman inquiry, infopass appts. Not sure what worked.
My Main conern was that my AOS (principal applicant) would be stalled because my spouse (dependent) had expired FPs and we missed an appointment. Apparently this turned out not to be the case.
Thanks IV for a lot of useful information. All the best to everybody.
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JazzByTheBay
09-24 09:03 AM
In essence what the memo seems to state is that I can have another employer file an I-140 petition, and if approved, simply substitute the I-140 in my existing I-485.
Is that right?
jazz
It is possible to use your new approved 140(EB2). Your date are current and do request USCIS and go in front of GC line. Good luck.
You can request USCIS with reference to this citation/pdf.
http://www.ilw.com/lawyers/seminars/august2002_citation2c.pdf
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Is that right?
jazz
It is possible to use your new approved 140(EB2). Your date are current and do request USCIS and go in front of GC line. Good luck.
You can request USCIS with reference to this citation/pdf.
http://www.ilw.com/lawyers/seminars/august2002_citation2c.pdf
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gcbeku
08-19 12:09 PM
got the actual cards today.
CPO email: 08/06 (online case status: Card/Document Production)
approval notice email: 12 hrs later (online case status: Decision)
soft LUD: 08/09
approval notice snail mail: 08/13
"green" card: 08/19
CPO email: 08/06 (online case status: Card/Document Production)
approval notice email: 12 hrs later (online case status: Decision)
soft LUD: 08/09
approval notice snail mail: 08/13
"green" card: 08/19
nitkad
06-18 01:25 PM
Hi,
Both, me and my wife have approved I-140 through two seperate consulting companies.
Can we apply for I-485 individually and add the other as dependant at the same time?
Thanks
Nitin
Both, me and my wife have approved I-140 through two seperate consulting companies.
Can we apply for I-485 individually and add the other as dependant at the same time?
Thanks
Nitin
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09-15 02:47 PM
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alterego
03-26 05:08 AM
I am not aware of anything that says that you need to bring this up initially in your job search. I personally wouldn't put it in my CV.
Apply for a job, as you would if you had a green card (keeping within the AC21 parameters.) If the question of visa sponsorship comes up then you can say you do not need it. I am not sure why people bring this up with their prospective employers. If you have employment authorisation, you have it, it is not employer specific, it is not site specific, it is quite broad in its scope. The employer
has to complete the I-9 like for anyone else. Any issues would be with the USCIS at the time of adjudication and that would be if AC21 rules are broken.
I think that sometimes we project our own fears onto employers and make issues when none exist. I've seen the same sort of doubts expressed about AP travel.
Folks need to grow more confident generally. For many their immigrant petitions 140s have been approved and their 485s have been pending for quite a while. They give you these interim benefits for a reason, so you can use them!
Apply for a job, as you would if you had a green card (keeping within the AC21 parameters.) If the question of visa sponsorship comes up then you can say you do not need it. I am not sure why people bring this up with their prospective employers. If you have employment authorisation, you have it, it is not employer specific, it is not site specific, it is quite broad in its scope. The employer
has to complete the I-9 like for anyone else. Any issues would be with the USCIS at the time of adjudication and that would be if AC21 rules are broken.
I think that sometimes we project our own fears onto employers and make issues when none exist. I've seen the same sort of doubts expressed about AP travel.
Folks need to grow more confident generally. For many their immigrant petitions 140s have been approved and their 485s have been pending for quite a while. They give you these interim benefits for a reason, so you can use them!
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l1fraud
06-14 09:58 AM
rsharma, l1fraud,
There is nothing wrong in reporting fraud.
However your argument that you are reporting it since you cannot tolerate fraud isn't that convincing.
If you were always against injustice/lawlessness, you will see a lot of it in your daily life. Do you report or take action against each of those ? I don't think so.
After living in India for long and seeing people put up with all injustice and sometimes doing it themselves, it is hard to believe your argument that you are doing it just for the sake of law.
How many times in this thread I have mentioned that I am getting replaced by one of these L-1B resource, I am a poor Oracle/DB developer who fortunately cannot be replaced by L-1B visa resources (as my skills is a common technical one). So once these violations impact your day to day life you look around for ways to stop this fraud. Its true that if I was a Nuero Surgeon in Phily or a Astro Scientist in Houston I wouldn't be interested in this violation :-) .... tomorrow let this scenario happen to you ... you would be first one to raise the alert.
Regarding 'getting burnt', I don't think there is bigger burn than loosing our jobs (which already is happening) and hope you know that there is something called 'anonymity'... ya lets see whos going to get 'burnt' here. We'll definetly keep you updated regarding the outcome.
There is nothing wrong in reporting fraud.
However your argument that you are reporting it since you cannot tolerate fraud isn't that convincing.
If you were always against injustice/lawlessness, you will see a lot of it in your daily life. Do you report or take action against each of those ? I don't think so.
After living in India for long and seeing people put up with all injustice and sometimes doing it themselves, it is hard to believe your argument that you are doing it just for the sake of law.
How many times in this thread I have mentioned that I am getting replaced by one of these L-1B resource, I am a poor Oracle/DB developer who fortunately cannot be replaced by L-1B visa resources (as my skills is a common technical one). So once these violations impact your day to day life you look around for ways to stop this fraud. Its true that if I was a Nuero Surgeon in Phily or a Astro Scientist in Houston I wouldn't be interested in this violation :-) .... tomorrow let this scenario happen to you ... you would be first one to raise the alert.
Regarding 'getting burnt', I don't think there is bigger burn than loosing our jobs (which already is happening) and hope you know that there is something called 'anonymity'... ya lets see whos going to get 'burnt' here. We'll definetly keep you updated regarding the outcome.
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InTheMoment
08-20 11:49 PM
...how is USCIS involved in this other than adjudicating cases and providing statistics to DoS as far the EB3 allocation issue is concerned?
Why are you guys taking about USCIS's interpretation of the law ??? What have they to do with it ? :eek:
**** The interpration is done by the Visa Office of DoS. **** Should get in touch with them.
Why are you guys taking about USCIS's interpretation of the law ??? What have they to do with it ? :eek:
**** The interpration is done by the Visa Office of DoS. **** Should get in touch with them.
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shouldIwait
05-10 07:17 PM
dude, how many immigrants/H1/L1/GC/Gc->US citizens work for google/Msoft/Yahoo. And if you are naming these corporations as the benchmark of success/technical excellence why do you not listen to what they say about visa programs?
In addition why have these companies set up big shops in India. Although the innovations didn't happen there and there are several valid reasons for that, but just the fact that they have big footprints there means that they are able to find talent there.
In addition why have these companies set up big shops in India. Although the innovations didn't happen there and there are several valid reasons for that, but just the fact that they have big footprints there means that they are able to find talent there.
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pop
01-19 10:53 AM
You did not turn in your H-1B I-94 at the time of leaving? You have two I-94s right now or your attorney just wants your H-1B approval for filing the extension? Will he also attach a copy of your new I-94?
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CADude
09-20 03:20 PM
doing something is better than nothing... Please send fax that will be more effective than email (my experience). Anyway wait continue...... :)
I just email senator Evan Bayh, Congressmen Dan burton and USCIS complaint dept.
Thanks for all your help
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Thanks for all your help
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logiclife
07-09 06:43 PM
Will you guys stop this madness atleast now?. If US started bending rules for people who send flowers, then everyone will try to manipulate the system. There is a lot of difference between the circumstances of originla gandhigiri and now. :rolleyes: That was our country back then, for crying out loud.We are in a foriegn country and the issuance of visa a previlege not a right.Why cant you guys understand this simple fact?. Now stop making fools of yourself and get a life.
That USCIS director gave a good answer. Is your pain more than those citizens of this country who gave their limbs and life for US?. :eek:
BTW, i am one of the guys who couldn't file I-485 because of this fiasco. But i understand the reality.:)
Kindly realize that we know full well that flowers dont change laws and regulations. If that were case, Microsoft would have drowned DC with roses to get H1 quota increase.
We are not stupid. But the flower campaign does have a purpose bigger than 485 filing. Its called media attention. Now kindly stop complaining, trust IV leadership that has run this org successfully for past 18 months, and please help us by doing your part.
That USCIS director gave a good answer. Is your pain more than those citizens of this country who gave their limbs and life for US?. :eek:
BTW, i am one of the guys who couldn't file I-485 because of this fiasco. But i understand the reality.:)
Kindly realize that we know full well that flowers dont change laws and regulations. If that were case, Microsoft would have drowned DC with roses to get H1 quota increase.
We are not stupid. But the flower campaign does have a purpose bigger than 485 filing. Its called media attention. Now kindly stop complaining, trust IV leadership that has run this org successfully for past 18 months, and please help us by doing your part.
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09-11 07:15 PM
Just noticed they updated the next session date to 15 sep and not 22 Sep.
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sanjayb
09-22 03:54 AM
J.Barret list is growing longer... Added gc_us and srinitls
J.BARRET:
sanjayb - 2nd July/10:25/FedEx/J.Barret/NSC/140 - TSC/No CC/No RN 140 LUD - 08/05
Ashres11 - 2nd July/ 10:28/ Fedex/ J.Barrret/ NSC/ NO CC/ NO RN
Sairam - 2nd July/10:28/FedEx/J.Barret/NSC/140 - TSC/No RN - 07/28
InsKrish - 2nd July/10.25/J.Barret/NSC/I-140 approved from TSC/No CC/RN
sudhi - 2nd July/ 10:25/ Fedex/ J.Barrret/ NSC/ NO CC/ NO RN - CHECKS CASHED 09/13
Danu2007 - 2nd July/10:25AM/J. Barret/NSC/140-TSC/NO RN
Triviagal - 2nd July/ 10:25AM/ J. Barret/NSC/140-TSC/NO RN
rkartik78- 2nd july/10:25am/ J.Barret/ I140-TSC/ NO RN NO CC
GCFISH- 2nd july/10:25am/ J.Barret/ I140-TSC/ 485 went to NE/NO RN NOCC
rexjamla- 2ndJuly/10:25am/J.Barret/ I-140-NSC/ NO RN NO CC
kmkanth- 2nd July/10:25/FedEx/J.Barret/NSC/140 - TSC/No CC/No RN
BU007- 2nd July/10:25/FedEx/J.Barret/NSC/140 - TSC/No CC/No RN
veerufs - 2nd july/10:28am/J. BARRET/I140-TSC/NO RN/NO CC
123456mg - 2nd july/10:25am at NSC/J BARRET/I140-Approved from TSC/NO RN/NO CC
aussie731- 2ndJuly/10:25am/J.Barret/ I-140-NSC/ NO RN NO CC
nkavjs - 2nd July/ 10:25am/ Fedex/ J.Barrret/ NSC/ I-140 TSC lud on I-140 8-5-07/ NO CC/ NO RN
jsb - 2nd July/10:25/FedEx/J.Barret/NSC/140 - TSC/No CC/No RN 140 LUD - 07/27
gc_us - 2nd July/10:25/FedEx/J.Barret/NSC/140 - TSC/No CC/No RN 140 LUD - 07/28
srinitls - 2nd July/10:25/FedEx/J.Barret/NSC/NO RN NO CC
R Mickels :
giddu- 2nd july/9:01am/R Mickels/ I140-TSC/ NO RN NO CC
mahendra_t - 2nd july/9:01am/R Mickels/ I140-TSC/ NO RN NO CC
Satya- 2nd july/9:01am/R Mickels/ I140-TSC/ NO RN NO CC
pareshtyagi- 2nd july/9:01am/R Mickels/ I140-TSC/ NO RN NO CC
sapking - 2nd july/9:01am/R Mickels/ I140 pending-TSC/ NO RN NO CC
smshen- 2nd July/9:01/Fedex/R Mickels/NSC/140 - TSS/No CC/No RN
gcgoodluck- 2nd July/9:01/Fedex/R Mickels/NSC/140 - TSC/No CC/No RN/No data
dudenj - 2nd july/9:03am/R.Mickels/I140-NSC/NO RN/NO CC/NO EAD
F HEINAUER:
cadude- 2nd July/11.11am/F HEINAUER/NSC/1-40 TSC/NO RN NO CC
helpme1234-2nd July/11.14am/F HEINAUER/NSC/1-40 TSC/NO RN NO CC
cowboy-2nd July/12.34 pm/F HEINAUER/NSC/1-40 TSC/NO RN NO CC
R.Williams :
Jignesh - 2nd July/7:55am/ R.Williams /I140 -NCS/ NO RN NO CC, NO DATA IN SYSTEM
doshhar-2nd July/2:02PM/ R.Williams /I140 -TCS/ NO RN NO CC - I-140 LUD 08/05
C UHRMACHER :
Bayboy -2nd July/8.oam/C UHRMACHER/I140-TSC/NO RN NO CC
nk2007-2nd July/8.26am/C UHRMACHER/I140-TSC/NO RN NO CC
Other -
zdong -- 2nd july No check encash/No RN
HNaik-2nd July/10:04am/ Armstrong/I140 -TCS/ NO RN NO CC
mashu - 2nd july/11:34am/Gerkenmeyer/I140 TSC/ No RN No CC
abhis0 -- 2nd july/11:34am/Gerkenmeyer/I140 TSC/ No RN No CC 140 LUD - 08/05
Applications are returned:Incorrect filing fees :
noendinsight- 2nd July/NSC/1-40 Approved NSC/NO RN NO CC
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sanjayb - 2nd July/10:25/FedEx/J.Barret/NSC/140 - TSC/No CC/No RN 140 LUD - 08/05
Ashres11 - 2nd July/ 10:28/ Fedex/ J.Barrret/ NSC/ NO CC/ NO RN
Sairam - 2nd July/10:28/FedEx/J.Barret/NSC/140 - TSC/No RN - 07/28
InsKrish - 2nd July/10.25/J.Barret/NSC/I-140 approved from TSC/No CC/RN
sudhi - 2nd July/ 10:25/ Fedex/ J.Barrret/ NSC/ NO CC/ NO RN - CHECKS CASHED 09/13
Danu2007 - 2nd July/10:25AM/J. Barret/NSC/140-TSC/NO RN
Triviagal - 2nd July/ 10:25AM/ J. Barret/NSC/140-TSC/NO RN
rkartik78- 2nd july/10:25am/ J.Barret/ I140-TSC/ NO RN NO CC
GCFISH- 2nd july/10:25am/ J.Barret/ I140-TSC/ 485 went to NE/NO RN NOCC
rexjamla- 2ndJuly/10:25am/J.Barret/ I-140-NSC/ NO RN NO CC
kmkanth- 2nd July/10:25/FedEx/J.Barret/NSC/140 - TSC/No CC/No RN
BU007- 2nd July/10:25/FedEx/J.Barret/NSC/140 - TSC/No CC/No RN
veerufs - 2nd july/10:28am/J. BARRET/I140-TSC/NO RN/NO CC
123456mg - 2nd july/10:25am at NSC/J BARRET/I140-Approved from TSC/NO RN/NO CC
aussie731- 2ndJuly/10:25am/J.Barret/ I-140-NSC/ NO RN NO CC
nkavjs - 2nd July/ 10:25am/ Fedex/ J.Barrret/ NSC/ I-140 TSC lud on I-140 8-5-07/ NO CC/ NO RN
jsb - 2nd July/10:25/FedEx/J.Barret/NSC/140 - TSC/No CC/No RN 140 LUD - 07/27
gc_us - 2nd July/10:25/FedEx/J.Barret/NSC/140 - TSC/No CC/No RN 140 LUD - 07/28
srinitls - 2nd July/10:25/FedEx/J.Barret/NSC/NO RN NO CC
R Mickels :
giddu- 2nd july/9:01am/R Mickels/ I140-TSC/ NO RN NO CC
mahendra_t - 2nd july/9:01am/R Mickels/ I140-TSC/ NO RN NO CC
Satya- 2nd july/9:01am/R Mickels/ I140-TSC/ NO RN NO CC
pareshtyagi- 2nd july/9:01am/R Mickels/ I140-TSC/ NO RN NO CC
sapking - 2nd july/9:01am/R Mickels/ I140 pending-TSC/ NO RN NO CC
smshen- 2nd July/9:01/Fedex/R Mickels/NSC/140 - TSS/No CC/No RN
gcgoodluck- 2nd July/9:01/Fedex/R Mickels/NSC/140 - TSC/No CC/No RN/No data
dudenj - 2nd july/9:03am/R.Mickels/I140-NSC/NO RN/NO CC/NO EAD
F HEINAUER:
cadude- 2nd July/11.11am/F HEINAUER/NSC/1-40 TSC/NO RN NO CC
helpme1234-2nd July/11.14am/F HEINAUER/NSC/1-40 TSC/NO RN NO CC
cowboy-2nd July/12.34 pm/F HEINAUER/NSC/1-40 TSC/NO RN NO CC
R.Williams :
Jignesh - 2nd July/7:55am/ R.Williams /I140 -NCS/ NO RN NO CC, NO DATA IN SYSTEM
doshhar-2nd July/2:02PM/ R.Williams /I140 -TCS/ NO RN NO CC - I-140 LUD 08/05
C UHRMACHER :
Bayboy -2nd July/8.oam/C UHRMACHER/I140-TSC/NO RN NO CC
nk2007-2nd July/8.26am/C UHRMACHER/I140-TSC/NO RN NO CC
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zdong -- 2nd july No check encash/No RN
HNaik-2nd July/10:04am/ Armstrong/I140 -TCS/ NO RN NO CC
mashu - 2nd july/11:34am/Gerkenmeyer/I140 TSC/ No RN No CC
abhis0 -- 2nd july/11:34am/Gerkenmeyer/I140 TSC/ No RN No CC 140 LUD - 08/05
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coopheal
01-29 05:21 PM
I had already mentioned my EAD status when they had the interview. But after acceptiing it I mentioned it again in the conext of I9 form. Then they said they cant offer me emp;oyment due to my being on EAD.
This is a pretty big company. I understand that H1B is not protected under anti-discrimination for employment, but EAD holders, specifically those with AOS pending, are a protected against employment discrimination.
Does anyone have any links to the above conclusion ? I am so tired of this BS. I have spent long enough in this immigration c**p that if I have leave, might as well leave with a fight.
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just anotherone of the expendable non-citizens
On the EAD itself it is written that it is illegal to discriminate against folks who are having EAD. So if you have any written or verbal proof about employer saying no based on EAD you have a case of discrimination.
This is a pretty big company. I understand that H1B is not protected under anti-discrimination for employment, but EAD holders, specifically those with AOS pending, are a protected against employment discrimination.
Does anyone have any links to the above conclusion ? I am so tired of this BS. I have spent long enough in this immigration c**p that if I have leave, might as well leave with a fight.
regards
just anotherone of the expendable non-citizens
On the EAD itself it is written that it is illegal to discriminate against folks who are having EAD. So if you have any written or verbal proof about employer saying no based on EAD you have a case of discrimination.
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summitpointe
01-24 12:45 PM
I was told if you are going back to your home country, even if you don't have valid US Visa stamped, you don't need a transit visa. When you come back ofcourse you will have a vaild US visa
mohican
01-02 12:34 AM
Thanks for responding.
The key here is revocation vs. substitution. Per discussions with immi attorneys, AC21 portability is not explicit on what needs to be done if I140 is substituted by previous employer and NOT REVOKED, and the applicant is eligible for changing jobs (same desc and 180 days pending). The fact is that this loophole leads to illogical scenario--2 applicants taking benefit from same I140.
Question to you and other forum members: Is there a thread on this specific topic?
Mohican
As per some opinions, H1 also gets invalidated when 485 is revoked past 6 years limit of H1B. Did you also get your EAD revoked?
To answer your question#3, my lawyer said I should be able to retain PD from earlier approved 140 in such scenario. Check with yours.
The key here is revocation vs. substitution. Per discussions with immi attorneys, AC21 portability is not explicit on what needs to be done if I140 is substituted by previous employer and NOT REVOKED, and the applicant is eligible for changing jobs (same desc and 180 days pending). The fact is that this loophole leads to illogical scenario--2 applicants taking benefit from same I140.
Question to you and other forum members: Is there a thread on this specific topic?
Mohican
As per some opinions, H1 also gets invalidated when 485 is revoked past 6 years limit of H1B. Did you also get your EAD revoked?
To answer your question#3, my lawyer said I should be able to retain PD from earlier approved 140 in such scenario. Check with yours.
justin150377
07-09 09:37 PM
Do you think the director just decided to forward the flowers? I am sure he must have called a Monday meeting to counter this. A suggestion during the meeting must have been to forward the flowers to the veterans.
No they had to pass it through the senate first, the house debated on it and the President Veto'd it and as history shows the USCIS took things into their own hands and decided to forward the flowers anyway (with immigrant notes) to the hospital.
No they had to pass it through the senate first, the house debated on it and the President Veto'd it and as history shows the USCIS took things into their own hands and decided to forward the flowers anyway (with immigrant notes) to the hospital.