gcnirvana
10-12 03:45 PM
I heard it in NPR couple of days ago that it starts Nov 13th. They were talking about Physicians trying to push for a Medicare pay increase during the lame duck session. Aren't they getting paid more than enuf :mad:
does anyone have any idea when the lame duck session is scheduled to take place?
does anyone have any idea when the lame duck session is scheduled to take place?
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chi_shark
10-01 01:54 PM
it depends on the individual hospital... your downside is only your wife getting fired... which might not really happen unless your wife supplies 100 A grade nurses to the directly competing hospital across the street... if she does that, anyway she wont care for the job.... :-) all the best... let us know how it goes...
Hi,
My wife is doing residency using her EAD and she wanted to start a medical staffing company. Would there be any problem from the 'hospitals' since she is working as full time employee or is it depending on the individual hospital contract?
Please help me out if anybody has an idea.
Thanks.
Hi,
My wife is doing residency using her EAD and she wanted to start a medical staffing company. Would there be any problem from the 'hospitals' since she is working as full time employee or is it depending on the individual hospital contract?
Please help me out if anybody has an idea.
Thanks.
BharatPremi
10-25 03:24 PM
one correction PERM started in March 2005 or even 2004 cannot be sure....defintely not 2006
PERM started from May 2005 and till April 2006 was having one or other software related glitches. So my previous comment make sense in that regards.
PERM started from May 2005 and till April 2006 was having one or other software related glitches. So my previous comment make sense in that regards.
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okuzmin
09-22 03:25 PM
Forgot to mention: it took so long on my FOIA because all the documents had been archived into National Archives. If your notice is still in USCIS, it'll be much faster.
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zoho
08-28 07:54 PM
My wife has h4 visa till 2010.
Her AP is going to expire in october and planning to go to india soon.
Can she go to india after applying for AP renewal.
Applying for her AP because if my i 485 got approved and her's will be pending,then her h4 visa will automatically get cancelled which prevents from entering into US.
Please advice guys
Her AP is going to expire in october and planning to go to india soon.
Can she go to india after applying for AP renewal.
Applying for her AP because if my i 485 got approved and her's will be pending,then her h4 visa will automatically get cancelled which prevents from entering into US.
Please advice guys
GCBy3000
05-14 12:05 PM
I have seen lots of people posting more than 300+ in this forum and never contributed a dime. If you ask they shamelessly say it is not mandatory to contribute. Everyone knows it is not mandatory, but if you are not self centred and stingy, you will feel to contribute at least once if not recurring after spending months on IV forum.
I would request everyone to update their signature with the contribution. AGAIN IT IS A REQUEST and NOT AN ORDER.
Thanks a lot, YES. Apart from the media initiative, we need the funds to pay our lobbyist. We can make this happen. Today and tommorrow are big days. Please contribute especially if you have never contributed.
I would request everyone to update their signature with the contribution. AGAIN IT IS A REQUEST and NOT AN ORDER.
Thanks a lot, YES. Apart from the media initiative, we need the funds to pay our lobbyist. We can make this happen. Today and tommorrow are big days. Please contribute especially if you have never contributed.
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n_2006
03-27 03:36 PM
We didn't hear back from you. Please let us know the information you got from USCIS. Here lot of people waiting for your post (Prabably GOODNEWS from you).
I read many places that you can attach case approval status if you have receipt number. USCIS will verify the beneficiary and will port priority date. Has anybody verified with attorney?
I read many places that you can attach case approval status if you have receipt number. USCIS will verify the beneficiary and will port priority date. Has anybody verified with attorney?
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camarasa
07-20 05:38 PM
Guys
Don't worry about this bill being rejected. I am pretty sure one way or the other they need to increase the EB visa number soon, else definetely USCIS will be in big trouble with thousands of applications sitting there for them, now having said that USCIS will find a way to get some bill which will have EB visa count increased passed in congress, so untill then cheer up and complete your filing.:) :) :)
Or they will find a way to make to make it more difficult to qualify...
Don't worry about this bill being rejected. I am pretty sure one way or the other they need to increase the EB visa number soon, else definetely USCIS will be in big trouble with thousands of applications sitting there for them, now having said that USCIS will find a way to get some bill which will have EB visa count increased passed in congress, so untill then cheer up and complete your filing.:) :) :)
Or they will find a way to make to make it more difficult to qualify...
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logiclife
07-09 01:07 PM
Would you please elaborate if the flower campaign has hit any mainstream media like CNN, Fox etc?? Or just the TOI and other small covers? I just want to know how famous this has become.. Thanks.
I wouldnt make such a big request just for attention from TOI. Please trust me we will get attention if we manage to send a few hundred flowers. I am not exaggerating. And I am talking about bigger US media outlets. And I am also not speculating. I am 100% sure. Please send the flowers as per these directions from IV core. (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6191).
Thanks.
I wouldnt make such a big request just for attention from TOI. Please trust me we will get attention if we manage to send a few hundred flowers. I am not exaggerating. And I am talking about bigger US media outlets. And I am also not speculating. I am 100% sure. Please send the flowers as per these directions from IV core. (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6191).
Thanks.
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satyasaich
03-12 09:42 AM
I know you are a stuipd.
There is no point in this kind of thread. I completely understand the frustration of endless waiting for GC.
Instead it's better to spend valuable for family, freinds and community if possible.
There is no point in this kind of thread. I completely understand the frustration of endless waiting for GC.
Instead it's better to spend valuable for family, freinds and community if possible.
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amitjoey
11-08 04:32 PM
Hindus could be anywhere in the world, not just India. Being a Hindu does not automatically mean you are an Indian. You could be a citizen of any country. So it does not establish the notion that it is an India centric website.
Just like all Muslims are not from Saudi Arabia. They are in 100's of different countres and citizens of diverse nations from UK and Malaysia to Australia and Germany. Christians could be from Europe, Australia and India or the African continent or China and other parts of Asia. I personally know Hindus that are from Fiji, Trinidad, Singapore, Malaysia, Sweden, UK, Canada and they are not Indian citizens.
Moreover, Diwali is for everybody, Just like X'MAS is. You can be an American and be a Hindu. So There is no question of IV getting targetted as India-centric or Indian issues-specific website.
Just like all Muslims are not from Saudi Arabia. They are in 100's of different countres and citizens of diverse nations from UK and Malaysia to Australia and Germany. Christians could be from Europe, Australia and India or the African continent or China and other parts of Asia. I personally know Hindus that are from Fiji, Trinidad, Singapore, Malaysia, Sweden, UK, Canada and they are not Indian citizens.
Moreover, Diwali is for everybody, Just like X'MAS is. You can be an American and be a Hindu. So There is no question of IV getting targetted as India-centric or Indian issues-specific website.
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whitecollarslave
04-23 04:25 PM
^^^^
With a few bills introduced or in the works, isn't it the time now to act and bring about awareness to our problems? I know IV has been working through state chapters. We can supplement those efforts with other means such as those suggested in this thread. We need to create an uproar about the hopeless situation and endless wait times due to retrogression, backlogs, and bureaucracy. I am not suggesting anything drastic. Just some peaceful ways that won't offend anybody to draw attention to the forgotten issues of EB immigrants.
With a few bills introduced or in the works, isn't it the time now to act and bring about awareness to our problems? I know IV has been working through state chapters. We can supplement those efforts with other means such as those suggested in this thread. We need to create an uproar about the hopeless situation and endless wait times due to retrogression, backlogs, and bureaucracy. I am not suggesting anything drastic. Just some peaceful ways that won't offend anybody to draw attention to the forgotten issues of EB immigrants.
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prabasiodia
06-12 05:44 PM
Pappu,
I agree with all most all of your points except one. You talk about everybody being part of Core IV when you say "Now coming to your question about core team. Core team is nothing but people like you."
That simply cannot happen because then IV as a whole would be acting like a headless chicken. Everyone now a days seems to be starting a drive, throwing tantrums at fellow IVians etc. This has to stop as per most of passive members, it means directionlessness.
I've a suggestion. Let's ask our members, those who want to be the core. Let's restrict the core group membership to 20-25. If we get more responses, we can poll for the most favorite candidates on the forum. Similarly we can ask all of our members for the drives they want to support and poll for the drives. The most favorite five drives then become IV's drives. Most people will not work unless they are given clear instructions. The reason FOIA drive became successful was because it was coordinated well, gave a clear direction to the members and had a clear goal. That is why we raised more money than required for that drive. We need similar type of purposeful drives which will keep all of us motivated. The forum members may vote out a core team member, if they are dissatisfied, I mean we can employ all types of checks and balances for an efficient core team and an efficient drive system.
A ship can have thousands of oarsmen but it needs an able captain to take it to the shore. If you ask me, I'll vote for you as the captain. :)
I agree with all most all of your points except one. You talk about everybody being part of Core IV when you say "Now coming to your question about core team. Core team is nothing but people like you."
That simply cannot happen because then IV as a whole would be acting like a headless chicken. Everyone now a days seems to be starting a drive, throwing tantrums at fellow IVians etc. This has to stop as per most of passive members, it means directionlessness.
I've a suggestion. Let's ask our members, those who want to be the core. Let's restrict the core group membership to 20-25. If we get more responses, we can poll for the most favorite candidates on the forum. Similarly we can ask all of our members for the drives they want to support and poll for the drives. The most favorite five drives then become IV's drives. Most people will not work unless they are given clear instructions. The reason FOIA drive became successful was because it was coordinated well, gave a clear direction to the members and had a clear goal. That is why we raised more money than required for that drive. We need similar type of purposeful drives which will keep all of us motivated. The forum members may vote out a core team member, if they are dissatisfied, I mean we can employ all types of checks and balances for an efficient core team and an efficient drive system.
A ship can have thousands of oarsmen but it needs an able captain to take it to the shore. If you ask me, I'll vote for you as the captain. :)
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amitjoey
08-19 11:04 AM
There are no bills being discussed. House as well as senate are on recess and will convine after Sept 10th. After it reconvenes, between 10th sept and Oct 8th - it has a lot of tasks at hand, and no apetite for any big and controversial issues like immigration. Mid term elections are in early nov and nobody wants controversial bills debated just before that. Morover it has been made clear that GOP does not want any immigration bills except "fencing the border". Democrats do not have required votes for cloture.
So, nothing is going to happen on the immigration front- legislatively untill after nov elections. Attitudes towards this issue will change and more GOP Lawmakers wil favor talking about this after. It will be a different ball-game depending on who keeps the majority. In the lame-duck there might be a chance.
August/Labor Day Recess
House - August 9 – September 12
Senate August 9 – September 10
Target Adjournment:
House - October 8
Senate - TBD
So, between now and the lame-duck session, if we can educate lawmakers- especially now- since they are comming back home and to their constituents in the recess. Most of them have town-hall meetings arranged and want to hear from their constituents. It will be good to make ourselves visible and heard.
So, nothing is going to happen on the immigration front- legislatively untill after nov elections. Attitudes towards this issue will change and more GOP Lawmakers wil favor talking about this after. It will be a different ball-game depending on who keeps the majority. In the lame-duck there might be a chance.
August/Labor Day Recess
House - August 9 – September 12
Senate August 9 – September 10
Target Adjournment:
House - October 8
Senate - TBD
So, between now and the lame-duck session, if we can educate lawmakers- especially now- since they are comming back home and to their constituents in the recess. Most of them have town-hall meetings arranged and want to hear from their constituents. It will be good to make ourselves visible and heard.
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sanju
01-15 01:21 PM
yeah.. So another reason to keep looking at the visa bulletins now. Once i get a GC I buy a house and get a gun. The american dream. ;-)
Thats my kind of dream. Just one addition to my list of things to do upon receiving my GC.
I will buy a house, get a gun and JOIN A LOCAL RELIGIOUS PLACE and choose my lord and savior. Hey, I want a passport to the heaven from here, I don't want to stand in green card line of heaven or go to hell.
BTW, move over here to WA state and you can buy a gun.
.
Thats my kind of dream. Just one addition to my list of things to do upon receiving my GC.
I will buy a house, get a gun and JOIN A LOCAL RELIGIOUS PLACE and choose my lord and savior. Hey, I want a passport to the heaven from here, I don't want to stand in green card line of heaven or go to hell.
BTW, move over here to WA state and you can buy a gun.
.
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Sideliner
09-15 02:53 PM
I came to us 02 june, bought home in 03 August. I applied for GC in Sept 2006. GC has nothing to do with house. If you can get a loan and buy in a decent locality buying any time is beter than renting.
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amitjoey
08-19 11:04 AM
There are no bills being discussed. House as well as senate are on recess and will convine after Sept 10th. After it reconvenes, between 10th sept and Oct 8th - it has a lot of tasks at hand, and no apetite for any big and controversial issues like immigration. Mid term elections are in early nov and nobody wants controversial bills debated just before that. Morover it has been made clear that GOP does not want any immigration bills except "fencing the border". Democrats do not have required votes for cloture.
So, nothing is going to happen on the immigration front- legislatively untill after nov elections. Attitudes towards this issue will change and more GOP Lawmakers wil favor talking about this after. It will be a different ball-game depending on who keeps the majority. In the lame-duck there might be a chance.
August/Labor Day Recess
House - August 9 – September 12
Senate August 9 – September 10
Target Adjournment:
House - October 8
Senate - TBD
So, between now and the lame-duck session, if we can educate lawmakers- especially now- since they are comming back home and to their constituents in the recess. Most of them have town-hall meetings arranged and want to hear from their constituents. It will be good to make ourselves visible and heard.
So, nothing is going to happen on the immigration front- legislatively untill after nov elections. Attitudes towards this issue will change and more GOP Lawmakers wil favor talking about this after. It will be a different ball-game depending on who keeps the majority. In the lame-duck there might be a chance.
August/Labor Day Recess
House - August 9 – September 12
Senate August 9 – September 10
Target Adjournment:
House - October 8
Senate - TBD
So, between now and the lame-duck session, if we can educate lawmakers- especially now- since they are comming back home and to their constituents in the recess. Most of them have town-hall meetings arranged and want to hear from their constituents. It will be good to make ourselves visible and heard.
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sobers
05-01 07:44 PM
While IV is already on the major Restrictionists (NumbersUSA, FAIR, CIS.org etc) Radar, it is now being followed by smaller, single issue restrictionist organizations like the Anti-h1b Zazona. Ever wonder why Mr. Sanchez of Zazona targets only Legal Immigrants - people who've always followed the rules laid down by their US lawmakers- like us, instead of illegals??
Perhaps Mr. Sanchez can answer that one next time he visits this website..:)
==========
http://www.zazona.com/ShameH1B/JDNewsArchive/2006/2006-04-26%20H-1Bs%20go%20to%20K%20Street.txt
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:12 PM
Subject: H-1Bs go to K Street
------------------------<<<>>>------------------------
JOB DESTRUCTION NEWSLETTER
by Rob Sanchez
April 26, 2006 No. 1466
------------------------<<<>>>------------------------
A new organization of called Immigration Voice (IV) has been formed to
lobby the U.S. government. Most of the members are foreign nationals on
H-1B visas. They want the U.S. government to issue more green cards so that
H-1Bs can gain permanent residency. Immigration Voice seems to be a single
issue advocacy group because they don't mention H-1B, however, they are
supporting the Specter bill in the Senate that has a massive increase in
Green Card visas as well as H-1B and a new visa called F-4.
H-1B is a temporary visa that can last for up to six years, but due to a
new 7th Year Extension rule visas can be renewed indefinitely until the
visa holder obtains a green card. As long as the green card application is
in the cue the H-1B can stay. There are limits to the number of green cards
issued per year, and that is what IV wants to change. As Dr. Philip Martin
from UCDavis wrote, "There Is Nothing More Permanent Than Temporary Foreign
Workers." To read Martin's classic paper go to:
http://www.cis.org/articles/2001/back501.html
The stated goal from their website:
http://immigrationvoice.org/
Our big initiative currently is towards addressing delays
and other flaws in the employment based green card process.
Immigration Voice formed very quickly and they are showing that they are
very serious about lobbying the U.S. government. They hired a professional
lobbying firm to represent them called Quinn Gillespie & Associates LLC. IV
also is talking with the infamous lobbyist Rick Swartz. Norman Matloff
described Swartz as a "pro-immigration lobbying kingpin who has represented
both industry firms such as Microsoft and also the ISN". Mark Krikorian at
CIS is usually low key, but not when he wrote about Rick Swartz:
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/markoped033104.html
And then there's the National Immigration Forum, the umbrella
organization for high-immigration political advocacy, which
works closely with sympathetic Republicans. But NIF is not like
the conventional lobbying coalitions that exist on numerous
issues. It was cofounded by the National Lawyers Guild in the
1980s, back when the Guild was a Soviet front group. The group's
first head was Rick Swartz, a leftist attorney who cut his teeth
advocating for Haitian illegal aliens and who, during a 1981
Senate hearing, likened the United States to Nazi Germany.
Most of the Immigration Voice activities seem to center around fund raising
to pay for their lobbying efforts. They aren't talking about chump change
either. Here are their contributions so far, which must be reported since
they are applying for 501-C(4) status.
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Ite
mid=44
Total Contribution $90,640.10
Target $200,000
Percentage of Target Met 45.3%
When I started reading the Washington Post article below the first question
that came to my mind was the legality of H-1Bs and other foreign nationals
to actively lobby our government. The DOJ answers that very definitively:
http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/fara/q_A.htm
Foreign Agents Registration Act
Q. Does the Act limit an agent's lobbying and publishing
informational materials (propaganda) for a Foreign
principal?
A. No, the Act requires only registration.
The article below is written by Mitra Kalita. She was born in the U.S. by
parents who immigrated to the U.S. from India. Her bio can be read here:
http://www.pbs.org/searching/aaw_mkalita.html
Kalita does a good job of reporting what Immigration Voice is all about but
the article is not objective, and therefore should be considered lousy
journalism. It's a rather long article with quotes from many advocates for
increasing immigration but not one sentence from somebody that disagrees
with the IV agenda. This statement about IV's quest for more green cards
for H-1B visa holders goes totally unchallenged:
"This is a sympathetic story," said Nick Maduros, a lobbyist
for Quinn Gillespie. "For this group, their issues are very
technical and are frankly not that controversial, but they
have been overshadowed ."
>>>>> THE BIG QUESTION <<<<<
Immigration Voice raises many questions but one stands up in my mind as the
most important:
WHY AFTER 16 YEARS OF H-1B HAVE AMERICAN WORKERS FAILED TO ORGANIZE
THEMSELVES TO FIGHT FOR THEIR JOBS?
There have been many attempts at forming organizations but all of them are
struggling. In all their years of existence they haven't been able to raise
even a fraction of the money IV has raised in just four months. ZaZona.com
as well as many others are operating on such small shoestring budgets we
are continually struggling just to survive.
Why do citizens of the United States lack the passion we are seeing from
foreign nationals that are here both legally and illegally?
One thing for sure, we shouldn't waste time griping about Immigration Voice
because they are playing the political game according to our own rules. If
we lose this one, who's fault is it?
Perhaps Mr. Sanchez can answer that one next time he visits this website..:)
==========
http://www.zazona.com/ShameH1B/JDNewsArchive/2006/2006-04-26%20H-1Bs%20go%20to%20K%20Street.txt
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:12 PM
Subject: H-1Bs go to K Street
------------------------<<<>>>------------------------
JOB DESTRUCTION NEWSLETTER
by Rob Sanchez
April 26, 2006 No. 1466
------------------------<<<>>>------------------------
A new organization of called Immigration Voice (IV) has been formed to
lobby the U.S. government. Most of the members are foreign nationals on
H-1B visas. They want the U.S. government to issue more green cards so that
H-1Bs can gain permanent residency. Immigration Voice seems to be a single
issue advocacy group because they don't mention H-1B, however, they are
supporting the Specter bill in the Senate that has a massive increase in
Green Card visas as well as H-1B and a new visa called F-4.
H-1B is a temporary visa that can last for up to six years, but due to a
new 7th Year Extension rule visas can be renewed indefinitely until the
visa holder obtains a green card. As long as the green card application is
in the cue the H-1B can stay. There are limits to the number of green cards
issued per year, and that is what IV wants to change. As Dr. Philip Martin
from UCDavis wrote, "There Is Nothing More Permanent Than Temporary Foreign
Workers." To read Martin's classic paper go to:
http://www.cis.org/articles/2001/back501.html
The stated goal from their website:
http://immigrationvoice.org/
Our big initiative currently is towards addressing delays
and other flaws in the employment based green card process.
Immigration Voice formed very quickly and they are showing that they are
very serious about lobbying the U.S. government. They hired a professional
lobbying firm to represent them called Quinn Gillespie & Associates LLC. IV
also is talking with the infamous lobbyist Rick Swartz. Norman Matloff
described Swartz as a "pro-immigration lobbying kingpin who has represented
both industry firms such as Microsoft and also the ISN". Mark Krikorian at
CIS is usually low key, but not when he wrote about Rick Swartz:
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/markoped033104.html
And then there's the National Immigration Forum, the umbrella
organization for high-immigration political advocacy, which
works closely with sympathetic Republicans. But NIF is not like
the conventional lobbying coalitions that exist on numerous
issues. It was cofounded by the National Lawyers Guild in the
1980s, back when the Guild was a Soviet front group. The group's
first head was Rick Swartz, a leftist attorney who cut his teeth
advocating for Haitian illegal aliens and who, during a 1981
Senate hearing, likened the United States to Nazi Germany.
Most of the Immigration Voice activities seem to center around fund raising
to pay for their lobbying efforts. They aren't talking about chump change
either. Here are their contributions so far, which must be reported since
they are applying for 501-C(4) status.
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Ite
mid=44
Total Contribution $90,640.10
Target $200,000
Percentage of Target Met 45.3%
When I started reading the Washington Post article below the first question
that came to my mind was the legality of H-1Bs and other foreign nationals
to actively lobby our government. The DOJ answers that very definitively:
http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/fara/q_A.htm
Foreign Agents Registration Act
Q. Does the Act limit an agent's lobbying and publishing
informational materials (propaganda) for a Foreign
principal?
A. No, the Act requires only registration.
The article below is written by Mitra Kalita. She was born in the U.S. by
parents who immigrated to the U.S. from India. Her bio can be read here:
http://www.pbs.org/searching/aaw_mkalita.html
Kalita does a good job of reporting what Immigration Voice is all about but
the article is not objective, and therefore should be considered lousy
journalism. It's a rather long article with quotes from many advocates for
increasing immigration but not one sentence from somebody that disagrees
with the IV agenda. This statement about IV's quest for more green cards
for H-1B visa holders goes totally unchallenged:
"This is a sympathetic story," said Nick Maduros, a lobbyist
for Quinn Gillespie. "For this group, their issues are very
technical and are frankly not that controversial, but they
have been overshadowed ."
>>>>> THE BIG QUESTION <<<<<
Immigration Voice raises many questions but one stands up in my mind as the
most important:
WHY AFTER 16 YEARS OF H-1B HAVE AMERICAN WORKERS FAILED TO ORGANIZE
THEMSELVES TO FIGHT FOR THEIR JOBS?
There have been many attempts at forming organizations but all of them are
struggling. In all their years of existence they haven't been able to raise
even a fraction of the money IV has raised in just four months. ZaZona.com
as well as many others are operating on such small shoestring budgets we
are continually struggling just to survive.
Why do citizens of the United States lack the passion we are seeing from
foreign nationals that are here both legally and illegally?
One thing for sure, we shouldn't waste time griping about Immigration Voice
because they are playing the political game according to our own rules. If
we lose this one, who's fault is it?
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Suva
05-06 02:30 PM
I am also in the same boat. Could anybody suggest some good affordable online universities?
jonty_11
06-28 12:26 PM
makes sense...they are expecting alot of 140/485 combine filings in July and by issuing this bulletin they have stopped people from filing 140 in PP
mbhang
04-08 02:32 PM
If there is unity, and all of us walk out with all our money, this would definitely get the attention of the lawmakers.
I suggested the same action last year. Right now, waiting for 485 (EB 2 LC took close to 6 years) - but I feel if 20-30K of us left (and take our money with us too, don't leave it here to work for this country) because we are being screwed by the stupid immigration laws, that will have a bigger impact in changing the laws than any lobbying effort possibly would.
I suggested the same action last year. Right now, waiting for 485 (EB 2 LC took close to 6 years) - but I feel if 20-30K of us left (and take our money with us too, don't leave it here to work for this country) because we are being screwed by the stupid immigration laws, that will have a bigger impact in changing the laws than any lobbying effort possibly would.