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  • floridasun
    04-19 06:39 PM
    good post... agreed for the most except - yes this is how free market enterprise works but this is also how economy is so vibrant and so many jobs are generated although US has only 300 million ppl most of whom are under-educated. if you are saying ppl in 30's should look elsewhere - where would so many ppl look jobs for ? why not they stick here for few more years and when time comes (read it as when they are forced to leave the country), they just go back to home country and make use of saved money/401k etc in their local currency. also focus on their kids.

    Politicians always want to keep issues alive! If issues go away, there is nothing to fight, nothing to talk in the elections; without issues you cannot get "bulk" support from any specific group! So, the so called CIR will remain a "perpetual carrot". It will never happen in our life time.

    We are all mature, educated people from a highly politically conscious environment! So...we are not naive, I am sure!

    I take this opportunity to summarize a few things which have happened in the context of "long term indentured" labourers like us:

    1. Quantum jump in terms of H1 ---> about 8 / 9 years back [happened because of pressure from corporations and their lobbies, nothing to with us. they wanted cheap labour and more profits!]

    2. "Free for all" L1s ---> There is no cap, no specialty skill requirement. Not even sure if this has a min wage like H1. Why? Only because it serves the interests of the corporations to import 80% of the work force in any project!

    3. Yearly H1 extensions based on Labour approvals / 3 year extensions for I 140 cases ---> When the "slaves" started returning after 6 years (without GCs being approved) the corporations growled and again the lobbies worked day and night. This has nothing to do with our pleading!

    4. AC 21 ---> This is a good feature with a humane angle, but again there is NO WRITTEN MEMO permitting the employees to switch jobs 6 months after receving their EADs! This has been clearly articulated in a new item by Murthy.com! So AC21 is NOT a fool proof mechanism!
    If the employer withdraws his I 140 there is a fair chance that 485 might be denied. (as per Murthy.com, there are a number of cases where such denials have happened). Again INS will never issue a memo, because it will antagonize the corporations

    5. EAD / AP merger ---> this is a minor change in procedure, an admin fix! This is not a policy change. Full credit to several immigration forums and pleadings. However, this is not going to help many of us as our AP / EAD dates vary by several weeks and we might not be able to file them together

    So, after 10 + years pleading, we have been able to get an admin fix :) That is amazing!!! Under the circumstances we cannot even dream of any legislative support or correction! Instead of Chinese / Indians in the endless line had citizens of the EU nations been affected, everything would have been fixed ages back!

    Everyone is interested in the illegals and their "hard working" school children! That is because of the money, muscle, vote power they wield! Even if they were to have 1% of the law on their side, they would have achieved their objective ages back! They are holding us hostage because we have 100% of the law on our side and they have 0% of the law on their side. Otherwise, why should we law abiding immigrants be grouped with people who jumped fence?

    Think...does this make sense at all? Correct me if I am wrong! I will accept my mistakes with all humility!

    How is the CIR even relevant in our case? Did we do anythng illegal????

    What are we all waiting for? ~ ~ ~

    Honestly, NOTHING but the WILL of the SUPREME POWER can help us !!! (more than 99% of the population are believers, anyway)

    Youngsters in the early to mid 30s with "non US citizen kids" please think seriously. Do not waste your time in this mess for decades. We have all suffered for 10 - 12 years now and have no options. If you cross the age of 40 then you cannot immigrate to any western country because you will lose in the "points system". It would be a good option to live in countries who have a clear cut time bound program which does not discriminate on the basis of your nationality.

    When the corporations wanted you and I, H1 was increased - no one was bothered about your nationality at that time. Today when we want a future for our family and kids, people talk about quota and diversity! This is what is known as "Having the cake and eating it too"

    Remember, the system has been designed to support and ensure long term indentured labour to sustain the greedy corporations! There is no place for empathy or compassion. It is business! It is money! Free market enterprise works this way!

    If we are expecting miracles, we are chasing a mirage!!!

    May the SUPREME POWER bless the EB2 / EB3 communities and give them the strength, resilience and the patience they badly need!!!





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  • chanduv23
    01-13 01:32 PM
    EB2 -- Dont run fast, you will fall down again ...

    I'm EB3 , with PD Oct 18th, Off by 3 days since last 2 months ...

    I don't think dates will go back again unless they drastically move the dates forward. The dates could remain stagnant for a long time though.





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  • HawaldarNaik
    09-28 04:28 PM
    Wow this data looks scary, if this is going to be a benchmark, i dont see much of a forward movement in both categories



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  • 485Mbe4001
    04-09 03:03 PM
    :rolleyes: Maybe one day it will be the only option available to us...maybe there is an indian dream, i know there is an indian summer.

    I'd say, we've waited enough(6-12 years). I know we are all chasing the american dream (perhaps it is just a dream), we should just make peace and move back. Thank you congress, america for giving ppl (from so called 3rd world nations) like us the chance to come and serve this great nation.

    mind you.. dont forget to take back your $$$





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  • nb_des
    06-18 02:41 PM
    She will continue on H4 status until she uses EAD (by filing I-9 with an employer when she starts working). At that point, her H4 is automatically invalid and she is then on EAD. Until then she can be on H4. Same rule applies to H1.
    Thanks this is useful information. Also I am planning to continue in my H1 status as per company policy they allow EAD/AP only for spouse and not the employee. In future, will I be able to file EAD/AP for myself separately or does this need to be done with 485 filing? In future if I decide to file EAD/AP can I do this myself or would I need my employer for this?



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  • BharatPremi
    11-08 10:46 AM
    Even if a Mod or an Admin wants to wish its members on festive season, there is nothing wrong about it. Even the American President wishes people on ocassions and festivals.

    I'm with you.





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  • unitednations
    04-20 11:40 AM
    I also have a 3 year Bachelor's degree (BSc Physics) + 3 Year masters degree (MCA) from India. I would like to get it evaluated. Could you please let me know which education evaluation agency you used?

    Is you bachelor and master degree in the same or related discipline? I read somewhere that the bachelors and master's will have to be in the same or related fields for it to be considered equivalent to US Masters degree.

    I haven't seen one 140 get denied due to a 3 +3 education. Any evaluation agency will give masters equivalent. You can use any one of them.



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  • WaldenPond
    01-07 10:20 PM
    Thank you WaldenPOd. I am a pharmacist and I am always extremely bz with my work and two kids. but my wife is actively participating in this effort. She has already posted flyers in Indian store and restaurant. I will ask her to post it in Chinese and other store.
    She is actively sending email to friends and relatives to join IV. Also, we are planing to visit universities around our area during this weekend and post flyers
    .Let me know what else I can do.

    Thank you guys for your brilliant efforts :)


    Hello Rayyan,

    Thank you for your support and encouragement.

    In our conference calls and one-to-one working sessions, we all remind ourselves everyday that this effort has started and will be successful one day because of silent hero�s like your. It is a long way to go �. I personally salute everybody who have been supporting this effort diligently.

    Please convey gratitude to your wife for all the good work. Her good work will help all of us suffering due to retrogression.

    -WP





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  • pappu
    06-30 10:52 AM
    Nothing significant is expected from this speech. Most politicians repeat the same 3 things- Secure our borders, provide path to citizenship to millions and welcome best and the brightest. The real question is when they will do the real work on immigration. There have been some discussions on administrative fixes on immigration. However some of these fixes would politically harm democrats in the upcoming elections.



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  • WaldenPond
    01-07 10:20 PM
    Thank you WaldenPOd. I am a pharmacist and I am always extremely bz with my work and two kids. but my wife is actively participating in this effort. She has already posted flyers in Indian store and restaurant. I will ask her to post it in Chinese and other store.
    She is actively sending email to friends and relatives to join IV. Also, we are planing to visit universities around our area during this weekend and post flyers
    .Let me know what else I can do.

    Thank you guys for your brilliant efforts :)


    Hello Rayyan,

    Thank you for your support and encouragement.

    In our conference calls and one-to-one working sessions, we all remind ourselves everyday that this effort has started and will be successful one day because of silent hero�s like your. It is a long way to go �. I personally salute everybody who have been supporting this effort diligently.

    Please convey gratitude to your wife for all the good work. Her good work will help all of us suffering due to retrogression.

    -WP





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  • thomachan72
    05-29 07:20 AM
    Hi,
    I found this interesting comment from a blog. It has been posted by an H.R. representative who has access to H1B and GC users' records. The points raised are indeed valid and they seem to have a 'case' against us. I do not by any means want to undermine our efforts but it does provide a perspective from the 'citizens' perspective.

    The bill would also drastically increase the number of H-1B visas issued to foreign professional workers. As a Human Resources representative, I see first hand how the H-1B visa and employment based green card programs actually work together to drive U.S. white collar workers from their jobs and even from their careers. To begin with, there is virtually nothing in the law that prevents employers from hiring H-1Bers for open positions even if qualified Americans are available and willing to do the work. Americans are routinely laid off and replaced with lower paid H-1Bers also. In these cases, Americans have practically no legal recourse available under current law. H-1B is also a dual intent visa, so an employer may sponsor an H-1Ber for an EB green card for legal permanent resident status. When a company seeks to sponsor a foreign worker for an EB green card, they are required by law to demonstrate a good faith effort to recruit Americans first. This process is called labor certification. But employers routinely game the labor certification process for green card sponsorship to defraud even well qualified citizen job applicants in favor of low wage foreigners. They use fake job ads and/or bad faith interviews of American citizens to convince the federal government that they tried to find American workers first. These practices are common in high tech and even in some non-tech industries, but HR people are told to keep quiet about it or lose their jobs.

    I would be in favor of a program that issues a small number of self-sponsoring green cards for truly innovative foreign nationals on a competitive basis. But very few of the H-1Bers or green card applicants that I have seen in 10+ years even come close to being truly innovative. Most are just practitioners with skills that are actually quite common among the domestic workforce. The only thing special about these foreigners is that they will work for substantially less than Americans in order to have a chance to become legal permanent residents. Thus they are used by management to sweeten corporate balance sheets.

    The prevailing wage regulations are supposed to insure that foreign nationals are paid the same as their American counterparts in the same job functions, but these regulations are so riddled with loopholes that they are a bad joke.

    Since my work allows me to have access to salary records, I can tell you that the labor cost savings for H-1Bers and green card applicants is substantially greater than the costs of filing the applications with the government.

    Citizens should demand that both the H-1B and employment based green card programs be abolished in their current form.

    My point is if we check our credentials, how many of us are 'true' innovators? I know I am not, I am an expert in what I do and am an asset to my company but I haven't filed any patents or publications which would be the true requirement for this country. My skills are indeed readily available in domestic workers as well. Could that be the reason for the backlog in EB-3 and none in EB-1? So do we need to do a reality check here? Just wondering if this could be the reason why we're getting a raw deal. Could it be that 'highly skilled' is not enough but 'genius' and 'highly skilled' is what's required here? Just a thought.
    Dont blame you for being concerned after reading this post. We at IV dont disagree that there are a few instances where infact below average skilled people are employed on H1bs. However, look around a little, talk to fellow foreigners (Indians/others) whom you meet somewhere and you will realize that they dont just supply cheap labor OK. They are indeed very qualified for the job they are put into. I know for example the job that I do CAN be done by an american citizen without any problem (if he /she is trained) but the fact is that, there is NOBODY around. REALLY there is nobody around. Now reg software, many of my software friends are highly talented individuals (not inovative in the sense you mean) without whom the industry will COLLAPSE and your HR person will have nobody to hire because he/she will have to go home. Remember also the fact that IT industry is now at a slowly developing phase and they need people to work for lower wages and cant survive to fill in all slots with the american worker who will want more money for lesser work time and that proves the HR persons point--work for lesser money (THAT INFACT IS THE MAJOR REQ FOR IT INDUSTRY AT PRESENT)



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  • gc_in_30_yrs
    09-21 05:58 PM
    still waiting. it takes 20 business days atleast!
    i will post here once i hear anything from them.
    :)





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  • bomber
    07-20 01:23 PM
    EB-2 India PD: Dec' 2003
    Filed 2nd July 8:26AM signed by C. Uhrmacher



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  • getgreensoon1
    04-20 12:09 PM
    [QUOTE=unitednations;2524344]

    Since, last august DOL has become weird with even approving eb3 labors. Generally, attornies will put language in the eta 9089 that they will accept three years of experience for each year of bachelors degree missing (this is in line with education evaluators and uscis).

    QUOTE]

    These days USCIS is trying to stick to the rules, so all people who are trying to beat the system by using wrong credentials are getting stuck. Lawyers have nothing to lose, they will make more money from you.....one from your eb3 application and two from your high risk eb2 application which will eventually be rejected.





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  • meridiani.planum
    06-10 05:23 AM
    Read this article : http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1075219844830

    This is story of a 84 year old Nazi from world war II whose citizenship was revoked. So even citizenship can be revoked.

    If you want to own a gun, own a gun and follow proper procedures and laws related to gun ownership. You can be afraid of every little thing before you get your green card.

    If you are going to immigrate, then immigrate and assimilate with pride and dignity and stop being afraid of every little thing that might eventually lead of revocation of any of your immigration statuses.

    Ironically the first Indian to get US citizenship also had it revoked:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.K._Mozumdar

    In 1913 Mozumdar became the first Indian-born person to earn U.S. citizenship, having convinced the Spokane district judge that he was in fact Caucasian and thereby met the requirements of naturalization law then restricting citizenship to "free white persons." Ten years later, as a result of the U.S. Supreme Court decision in United States v. Bhagat Singh Thind, stipulating that no person of East Indian origin could become a naturalized American, Mozumdar’s citizenship was revoked.



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  • gauravster
    01-15 11:38 AM
    In times like these, we should look at the employment generation capabilities of the skilled immigrants. The argument that skilled labor would take US jobs and increase unemployment does not hold as those with 5+ years experience in the US in a skilled position are very likely to start new business, have career in new fields at managerial positions, buy a house, etc which will in itself be a huge stimulus to the economy.

    The same cannot be said about unskilled labor though.

    Yoda says:

    Bill hard to be approved that it is.

    Unemployment rising for Americans rapidly it is. Tough to let more immigrants like us get jobs from Americans. Obama try he will.

    Be the Force be with you. IV contribute more should you.





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  • smmakani
    06-29 10:05 PM
    Also could you share your EB type and PD? Are you here in the US or applying from India? Thanks for your help!

    Yes I am in US and I came to know through email. They also preponed my appointment date from Aug to July 25.

    EB TYPE: 3
    PD: OCT 2003





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  • tooclose
    08-12 12:29 PM
    Very Disappointment for me.....as i missed it with couple of days.

    Visa Bulletin for September 2010 (http://travel.state.gov/visa/bulletin/bulletin_5113.html)

    I'm not sure if they are going to move dates in Oct or not...

    vishwak,

    I just got off the call from uscis regarding my I-485. My PD is in the first week of Mar 2006.

    Per the USCIS website, they are suppose to process even the first week of Mar 2006 although the Aug VB says it is 01MAR06. I spoke to the second level IO and he was confident that my case would have to wait for the next month. I insisted that the uscis website says otherways, he went and verified with the third level (or his peer) and came back and told me that I was correct.
    Infact told me that my case was pre-adjd and being reviewed by IO currently.

    I am sure the same applies to you with the Sep VB. Good luck !!!

    Note: This is not a legal advice and don't quote me on it.





    chanduv23
    10-10 03:09 PM
    My folks are here visiting... so it will be difficult for me to attend... but i will try

    Bring them along :D:D:D:D





    chanduv23
    10-02 11:47 AM
    i will be in nyc this weekend on work and will try my best to be there.
    look forward to seeing the tri state folks!

    This is on 12th - will u be there on 12th?



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