EkAurAaya
08-07 10:44 PM
Noone is forcing them to be ehre - you are saying. And I am saying: nobody should be forcing them out, either. They are ehre because they want to be here and because they want to discuss something with other people who are here - administrative problems or philosohpical issues.
Being here and being a part are two different things, you are either for or against a thing, if you are for eb improvement then be 100% for it - not i m EB2 so i support eb2 or I'm masters so i support masters, such discussions are fruitless and meaningless... we don't need this
'You should trust the organization in what they do' - you are saying. The organization should not be perceived as an abstract, 'know-it-all' deity that we, tiny humans have to blidnly follow. The organization is us collectively and we should not be following it, but leading it or at least taking it somewhere. Sometimes the road is straight and goes forward, sometimes there seem to be multiple roads that need exploring which may or may not coverge again. Sometimes the journey is not continuous and you need to stop, consult a map or a compass and realing yourself. There is nothing wrong with that. There should never be blind trust because that will sooner or later drive us all down the cliffs.
Everyone is intelligent enough to know whats right and whats wrong... if you feel what an organization is doing is wrong then do not associate yourself with it. If you see a cliff ahead then there is a good chance everyone else will see it too if there is one.... but dont start yelling i see a cliff i see a cliff (when there is none) follow me follow me and disperse the group
'If you have ideas talk to the core and discuss with them in person' - that is exactly what we are doing. Throwing around ideas and discussing them amongst ourselves. Sometimes the discussion is easy and disciplined and constructive and sometimes it is hard and confrontational and destructive. I think that if it is too confrontational or too destrcutive that indicates that not all is well within the group - I would refrain from calling it an organization just yet - and the ideas are not mature or ready yet and/or the group is not really cohesive and it is really not one group. Both of which are problems that need to be addressed and dealt with. By stifling discussion and censoring out ideas that you do not like, you are doing a disservice to the entire group because the group has to discover what is the cause of the destructive confrontation otherwise it cannot successfully function and fulfill its objectives.
You are not doing what you think you are... if you have solid ideas call the core, they know a lot more then what we do about how things work when it comes to lobbying. I guess you only have to look at the flower campane to know what organization and unity means, thanks to their efforts USCIS reversed there decision!
Being here and being a part are two different things, you are either for or against a thing, if you are for eb improvement then be 100% for it - not i m EB2 so i support eb2 or I'm masters so i support masters, such discussions are fruitless and meaningless... we don't need this
'You should trust the organization in what they do' - you are saying. The organization should not be perceived as an abstract, 'know-it-all' deity that we, tiny humans have to blidnly follow. The organization is us collectively and we should not be following it, but leading it or at least taking it somewhere. Sometimes the road is straight and goes forward, sometimes there seem to be multiple roads that need exploring which may or may not coverge again. Sometimes the journey is not continuous and you need to stop, consult a map or a compass and realing yourself. There is nothing wrong with that. There should never be blind trust because that will sooner or later drive us all down the cliffs.
Everyone is intelligent enough to know whats right and whats wrong... if you feel what an organization is doing is wrong then do not associate yourself with it. If you see a cliff ahead then there is a good chance everyone else will see it too if there is one.... but dont start yelling i see a cliff i see a cliff (when there is none) follow me follow me and disperse the group
'If you have ideas talk to the core and discuss with them in person' - that is exactly what we are doing. Throwing around ideas and discussing them amongst ourselves. Sometimes the discussion is easy and disciplined and constructive and sometimes it is hard and confrontational and destructive. I think that if it is too confrontational or too destrcutive that indicates that not all is well within the group - I would refrain from calling it an organization just yet - and the ideas are not mature or ready yet and/or the group is not really cohesive and it is really not one group. Both of which are problems that need to be addressed and dealt with. By stifling discussion and censoring out ideas that you do not like, you are doing a disservice to the entire group because the group has to discover what is the cause of the destructive confrontation otherwise it cannot successfully function and fulfill its objectives.
You are not doing what you think you are... if you have solid ideas call the core, they know a lot more then what we do about how things work when it comes to lobbying. I guess you only have to look at the flower campane to know what organization and unity means, thanks to their efforts USCIS reversed there decision!
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Winner
04-03 11:19 AM
I appreciate your response even if the guy is not a donor. Great job.
I thought about that for a minute too. This guy has joined on Dec 06, don't know if he made any financial contribution, don't know if he acted upon any action items IV core requested us to do (hopefully he did)
But IV core stepped in to help this guy, that shows the commitment of the leadership team to help everyone.
You guys rock!
I thought about that for a minute too. This guy has joined on Dec 06, don't know if he made any financial contribution, don't know if he acted upon any action items IV core requested us to do (hopefully he did)
But IV core stepped in to help this guy, that shows the commitment of the leadership team to help everyone.
You guys rock!
sri1309
08-14 08:29 AM
Good to see the count already three (here) in just 30 min of posting this idea (IV's one of the peaceful ways). So I am sure there will be huge response. Please spread this message as much as you can, and see if we can gather a good #.
ALSO we will have to wait for IV Admin to approve this, as I am just a junior member and dont have that capacity. WE MUSt start one more campaign.
Please spread this among your friends and make a difference. On this INdependence eve, lets work in the same lines as those great people did. We may like one leader or we may not like due to their approaches. But one most common thing you will see in all is UNity in what they did and strength came from there. What we are asking isnt that big a deal to fix. Simple admin fix
Sri..
EB3 PD 02/04
EAD/AP/... 07/07
485 pending....forever ..
NOPE.. It shoudlnt be forever.. WE WILL fix this. We WILL try to fix this by a peaceful campaign in 2 weeks if possible. But WE is impo.
ALSO we will have to wait for IV Admin to approve this, as I am just a junior member and dont have that capacity. WE MUSt start one more campaign.
Please spread this among your friends and make a difference. On this INdependence eve, lets work in the same lines as those great people did. We may like one leader or we may not like due to their approaches. But one most common thing you will see in all is UNity in what they did and strength came from there. What we are asking isnt that big a deal to fix. Simple admin fix
Sri..
EB3 PD 02/04
EAD/AP/... 07/07
485 pending....forever ..
NOPE.. It shoudlnt be forever.. WE WILL fix this. We WILL try to fix this by a peaceful campaign in 2 weeks if possible. But WE is impo.
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sdrblr
03-18 04:30 PM
Hi friends,
Can we start working for the new company immediately once the transfer petition is mailed i.e. without waiting for the EAC number ?
NO.
Mailed is not equal to received or applied for transfer. Until you have proof that USCIS has received your application, dont start at the new employer. Waiting for the receipt # is the safe route down the road even though you have to delay by a week or so.
Can we start working for the new company immediately once the transfer petition is mailed i.e. without waiting for the EAC number ?
NO.
Mailed is not equal to received or applied for transfer. Until you have proof that USCIS has received your application, dont start at the new employer. Waiting for the receipt # is the safe route down the road even though you have to delay by a week or so.
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gg10004
07-13 10:45 AM
^^^^
gg10004 - Great news !!!
Keeping fingures crossed
Lawyer already fedexed July applications yesterday and is recommending the same to all his applicants.
gg10004 - Great news !!!
Keeping fingures crossed
Lawyer already fedexed July applications yesterday and is recommending the same to all his applicants.
truthinspector
01-07 12:31 PM
Yes, unfortunately the clients (mostly US based ) react quickly and negatively to such news because much work happens offshore. The board members of the client organizations are bound to raise questions about reliability of doing business with such a company.Due to this new contracts may be hard to come by.
I feel sorry for the employees.
oh..is that true..
I tired to read economic times and couldnt understand how much they cooked.
sucha big scam..employees will be on the edge now
I feel sorry for the employees.
oh..is that true..
I tired to read economic times and couldnt understand how much they cooked.
sucha big scam..employees will be on the edge now
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sammyb
11-19 04:35 PM
Thanks you, Wish you all hte best and Good Bye.
BTW , i have also contributed $100 to IV so far.
why so ... am just curious ... aren't you supposed to be with the people/group that helped you (indirect and direct way) to be there where you are today...
guess because of this mindset we EB people never had a base support from our own people in this country ... once we receive the card we change our color and become an American from whatever country we came from...
sorry for this but I couldn't resist writing this... I have no issue with your labor sub as this was legal and given an option 99.99% people including me would have done that...
and I hope everyone should agree with me that after you get your card you should make a decent contribution to IV.... just my thoughts...
BTW , i have also contributed $100 to IV so far.
why so ... am just curious ... aren't you supposed to be with the people/group that helped you (indirect and direct way) to be there where you are today...
guess because of this mindset we EB people never had a base support from our own people in this country ... once we receive the card we change our color and become an American from whatever country we came from...
sorry for this but I couldn't resist writing this... I have no issue with your labor sub as this was legal and given an option 99.99% people including me would have done that...
and I hope everyone should agree with me that after you get your card you should make a decent contribution to IV.... just my thoughts...
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dilipb
02-16 01:53 PM
If an individual already has a pending AOS application on file when a retrogression occurs that places the cutoff earlier than the applicant's priority date, USCIS sets the application aside and will not adjudicate it until the priority date is current again. As an example, after months of stagnation, in June 2007 the priority date cutoffs for employment-based second and third preference (EB2 and EB3) applicants (the bulk of employment-based green card applicants) advanced dramatically for all countries of birth
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ssingh92
02-24 11:03 PM
Hello,
In all the stories of INS, USCIS, DHS that I've read here, the lack of visibility, customer service and accountability seem to be the common theme.
However, I was pleasantly surprized by a call from IO a few weeks back in local office asking me for extra documents (Current employment letter as the original one was from 2007, 2007 tax returns and 2007/08 W-2).
He told me that though he had sent a letter, the letter would take a few days to reach and hence he wanted to call me up. He also told me that as my original fingerprints are expiring on 26th Feb, I should send the response as soon as possible to enable him to process the application.
Though I still don't have any extra hope that the application will be processed soon, it was nice to see a change in USCIS approach.
Hope this was not an exception to rule and we see more such behavior from USCIS that helps in clearing us from this awkward limbo situation.
They might thinking to deport you asap!!!!!!!! Just kidding!!! I dont have much hope from these guys. My finger print medical expired last year and I didn't get any letter or call.
Anyway having + Attitude and is good thing.
In all the stories of INS, USCIS, DHS that I've read here, the lack of visibility, customer service and accountability seem to be the common theme.
However, I was pleasantly surprized by a call from IO a few weeks back in local office asking me for extra documents (Current employment letter as the original one was from 2007, 2007 tax returns and 2007/08 W-2).
He told me that though he had sent a letter, the letter would take a few days to reach and hence he wanted to call me up. He also told me that as my original fingerprints are expiring on 26th Feb, I should send the response as soon as possible to enable him to process the application.
Though I still don't have any extra hope that the application will be processed soon, it was nice to see a change in USCIS approach.
Hope this was not an exception to rule and we see more such behavior from USCIS that helps in clearing us from this awkward limbo situation.
They might thinking to deport you asap!!!!!!!! Just kidding!!! I dont have much hope from these guys. My finger print medical expired last year and I didn't get any letter or call.
Anyway having + Attitude and is good thing.
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sanu121
02-07 05:08 PM
If 200 more people contribute, we can open an UK branch of IV to address issues faced by high skilled immigrants (who can't even pay 20 bucks a month) in UK. May be these high skilled immigrants are very low paid since they can't even afford 20 bucks a month for this noble cause.
Please dont be rubbish to others. your suggestion to open another thread which make sense. BUT your contribution request and even talking their affordability to 20 bucks are too much talking.
Please dont be rubbish to others. your suggestion to open another thread which make sense. BUT your contribution request and even talking their affordability to 20 bucks are too much talking.
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kaisersose
06-13 01:54 PM
Do everything from scratch. File a new labor for a job position that requires a master's degree or bachelors + 5 years of exp. Then when applying for 140, attach a copy of the old 140 to use the earlier PD. There is no relation between the new job position and the job from the old 140. They do not have to match.
Risks? Zero. You just have to spend time and effort in getting the new 140.
The benefits of doing this far outweigh the trouble that you have go through to get bumped up to EB2.
Risks? Zero. You just have to spend time and effort in getting the new 140.
The benefits of doing this far outweigh the trouble that you have go through to get bumped up to EB2.
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eb3India
04-20 10:01 PM
how about www.taxpayinghandcuffededucatedslaves.org
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nomi
12-11 02:14 PM
SO if USCIS wants to make a new rule of filing I485 for the one whose I 140 is cleared and priority date is not current, It CAN DO That RULE Right?
We do not need any Congress approval for that Right?
If so can we explore this option??
I agree with you. Why we don`t explore this option ???? USCIS make so many rule by itself then why they don`t make this rule to file 485 while PD is not current without going in Senate. Like they start premium processing of I-140. They make this rule without any bill in US Senate. correct me if I am wrong
I think, core team should look this option or ask us to find more information about it. I think, core team can meet with high official from USCIS.
what do you guys think about it ??
thx.
We do not need any Congress approval for that Right?
If so can we explore this option??
I agree with you. Why we don`t explore this option ???? USCIS make so many rule by itself then why they don`t make this rule to file 485 while PD is not current without going in Senate. Like they start premium processing of I-140. They make this rule without any bill in US Senate. correct me if I am wrong
I think, core team should look this option or ask us to find more information about it. I think, core team can meet with high official from USCIS.
what do you guys think about it ??
thx.
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gjoe
08-14 03:30 PM
With due respect, Can you please tell me why it will fail?
Are you going to go there and ask for more visas or ask them to move the dates forward?
Are you going to go there and ask for more visas or ask them to move the dates forward?
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apatel_17
07-11 04:19 PM
whats going on today....all the law skirters are back...one is this thread the other is the labor substitution thread with 3 yr bachelor degrees....why dont u guys go back to immigration portal and get UN to help u with ur skirting the law issues
Please be careful before making allegations. There is nothing morally or legally wrong about planning your taxes. Do you claim your spouse or kids as your dependents in your taxes? Why is it wrong to get an exemption for your parents whom you support with your earnings?
Please be careful before making allegations. There is nothing morally or legally wrong about planning your taxes. Do you claim your spouse or kids as your dependents in your taxes? Why is it wrong to get an exemption for your parents whom you support with your earnings?
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06-22 12:04 PM
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dixie
10-02 02:01 AM
Much of Asia and Africa is bogged down due to unstable political condition, rampant corruption, weak institutions and regulated economies, not to say low literacy and paucity of skilled workers.
Correction: paucity of skilled workers owing to emigration to the "more competitive" economies. It is the emigrant source countries that need to be complaining, yet in case of the US we find that most of the complaining is coming from the destination country !!! Sometimes I do wonder if the US got too much of a good thing too easily.
Correction: paucity of skilled workers owing to emigration to the "more competitive" economies. It is the emigrant source countries that need to be complaining, yet in case of the US we find that most of the complaining is coming from the destination country !!! Sometimes I do wonder if the US got too much of a good thing too easily.
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logiclife
02-05 01:54 PM
If you want to elicit a response on retrogression, then you have to call their office and ask to speak with the person that deals with immigration issues and policy.
Or you can seek an appointment with that person and see what they have to say about this. Writing a letter will get you a generic form-letter response from a junior staffer whose job is to pick one of the 25 form-letter responses based on issue (Iraq, healthcare, immigration, veteran's affairs, crime, gun-control, abortion, judicial appointments, taxes, etc. etc. etc.) and slap your name/address and stick a postage stamp and mail it.
So, if you want to talk about immigration with them, call their office. Talk on phone or seek and appointment and meet them to elicit their position and educate them on retrogression.
Or you can seek an appointment with that person and see what they have to say about this. Writing a letter will get you a generic form-letter response from a junior staffer whose job is to pick one of the 25 form-letter responses based on issue (Iraq, healthcare, immigration, veteran's affairs, crime, gun-control, abortion, judicial appointments, taxes, etc. etc. etc.) and slap your name/address and stick a postage stamp and mail it.
So, if you want to talk about immigration with them, call their office. Talk on phone or seek and appointment and meet them to elicit their position and educate them on retrogression.
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HariRamNai
07-15 01:18 PM
Fox news and CNN are right wing media organisations who exagerate and create fear among decent American citizens. I for sure will do all my best from now on to expose this vicious campaign and even complain to organisations in the US about Lou Dobbs/Tom and their hate propaganda. CNN (Ted Turner) and Fox (Rupert Murdoch) also operate in other nations like India and we must let the Indian government (revoke their licences) and media organisations know about this.
somegchuh
04-04 06:47 PM
Eb3India,
You make very good points.
Actually a lot of folks who are beyond 6 years are themselves to blame to some extent. We did not realize that its a long process and the sooner you start the better it is.
Here's the deal. The GC process takes 4 years on average if you are from India/China. Some ppl get it it in 3 years. Some get it in 5 years. The systems is built in a way that it has to take at least 3 years. Back when labor processing used to take 2 years (1yr state + 1yr federal), the rest took 1-2 years. Now labor is really fast and the dates are retrogressed.
So, now it will take 6 months to get labor and then 2+ years of waiting for dates to become current then processing for 1 year. So about 4 years.
Off course some of us got the short end of the stick when cases got shipped to BEC's and labor took 4 instead of 2 years. and then some people are stuck in retrogression after getting out of BEC's. Its all about knowing the entire game before getting into it. I kick myself for not starting the process sooner.
So, your options are 1) Labor subs 2) Go to India and come back as L1 3) Fight the system 4) Do nothing and wait.
look I have been here for 10 years and I kick my self everyday for not getting card, if I played my cards right I should have been worrying about citizenship now :)
many of are here for good reasons of our own deed and situations which are beyound our control, 9/11, immigration politics etc. the best way to get around this either to follow some lope hole such as labor subst, L1 etc, or fight the system thru IV, or just simply wait,
complaining that someone else is getting greencard is nothing but childesh and I hate to say this as it comes from a "Highly educated" guy like who did is MS from US :D
You make very good points.
Actually a lot of folks who are beyond 6 years are themselves to blame to some extent. We did not realize that its a long process and the sooner you start the better it is.
Here's the deal. The GC process takes 4 years on average if you are from India/China. Some ppl get it it in 3 years. Some get it in 5 years. The systems is built in a way that it has to take at least 3 years. Back when labor processing used to take 2 years (1yr state + 1yr federal), the rest took 1-2 years. Now labor is really fast and the dates are retrogressed.
So, now it will take 6 months to get labor and then 2+ years of waiting for dates to become current then processing for 1 year. So about 4 years.
Off course some of us got the short end of the stick when cases got shipped to BEC's and labor took 4 instead of 2 years. and then some people are stuck in retrogression after getting out of BEC's. Its all about knowing the entire game before getting into it. I kick myself for not starting the process sooner.
So, your options are 1) Labor subs 2) Go to India and come back as L1 3) Fight the system 4) Do nothing and wait.
look I have been here for 10 years and I kick my self everyday for not getting card, if I played my cards right I should have been worrying about citizenship now :)
many of are here for good reasons of our own deed and situations which are beyound our control, 9/11, immigration politics etc. the best way to get around this either to follow some lope hole such as labor subst, L1 etc, or fight the system thru IV, or just simply wait,
complaining that someone else is getting greencard is nothing but childesh and I hate to say this as it comes from a "Highly educated" guy like who did is MS from US :D
WeShallOvercome
07-12 03:05 PM
One of my friend got EAD 2 year back even though his priority date was not came. Ofcourse this was even b4 this mess created USCIS. He was still using his H1 till couple months back, he is afraid of USCIS may roll back his EAD since PD is not yet reached.
I do heared 11 people from Infxxxx company got EAD even though their PD was not current. They are saying by mistake send the package but they got EAD.
I do know personally that person on the 1st paragraph, on the 2nd paragraph I dont have any evidence.....
Just sharing this information to help this thread, hope there may be lot more cases got EAD without PD even before this mess they have created.:D
You don't need your PD to be current for EAD/AP
I do heared 11 people from Infxxxx company got EAD even though their PD was not current. They are saying by mistake send the package but they got EAD.
I do know personally that person on the 1st paragraph, on the 2nd paragraph I dont have any evidence.....
Just sharing this information to help this thread, hope there may be lot more cases got EAD without PD even before this mess they have created.:D
You don't need your PD to be current for EAD/AP