jsb
04-16 09:57 AM
This is very interesting data. Pending 485s = 593937!! and number received in Feb = 38,663. To simplyfy assuming 600,000 pending and 38,000 new per month. Which means they get 456,000 apps per year. The total quota of Family + EB + Lottery + Refugee + Special = 226,000 + 140,000 + 55,000 + 90,000 + 10,000 = 521,000.
So if all green card apps were on equal footing and were always allocated it would take more than 9 years to clear the pending applications. But we all know that that is not the case so it might be 10, 12 or 15 years before the backlog is cleared and that would the best case scenario. This means retrogression will only get worse.
Perhaps, you missed a zero. Broad calculations as per info given by you, suggests 1 year to clear, not 10 years. However, most of the unusual delay for retrogressed countries is due to per country limit coupled with the fact that most of the applications are from a handful countries. This results in non-retrogessed cases clearing less than a year, but retrogressed apps have to wait for several years. This is topped by non-availability of PD's of applications in system readable form (PD's are nowhere written but the paper applications), resulting in guess work (and back and forth cutoff date movements).
So if all green card apps were on equal footing and were always allocated it would take more than 9 years to clear the pending applications. But we all know that that is not the case so it might be 10, 12 or 15 years before the backlog is cleared and that would the best case scenario. This means retrogression will only get worse.
Perhaps, you missed a zero. Broad calculations as per info given by you, suggests 1 year to clear, not 10 years. However, most of the unusual delay for retrogressed countries is due to per country limit coupled with the fact that most of the applications are from a handful countries. This results in non-retrogessed cases clearing less than a year, but retrogressed apps have to wait for several years. This is topped by non-availability of PD's of applications in system readable form (PD's are nowhere written but the paper applications), resulting in guess work (and back and forth cutoff date movements).
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GCAmigo
02-02 08:15 AM
Eager_Immi,
I did not find it on immigration-law.
that message.. I would stick with IV Core's info..
I did not find it on immigration-law.
that message.. I would stick with IV Core's info..
kvranand
01-17 04:15 PM
logiclife,
Please arrange to send your front page post of this thread to all 8400 members again. I am sure most of the member will respond. Some members may not see this webside more often as we do. For me this a defaulted web site now a days. But may not be for everybody!
kvranand
Please arrange to send your front page post of this thread to all 8400 members again. I am sure most of the member will respond. Some members may not see this webside more often as we do. For me this a defaulted web site now a days. But may not be for everybody!
kvranand
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hmehta
06-07 01:04 PM
President Bush is in Nebraska promoting the immigration bill. Let's what impact that has!
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GCIsLuck
11-20 04:44 PM
Hi,
I was wondering is this a firm news that- Labor gets expired after 6 months if you dont apply for 140..
It it right.. am thinking it depends on state to state ?
Appreciate your replies.
Thanks
I was wondering is this a firm news that- Labor gets expired after 6 months if you dont apply for 140..
It it right.. am thinking it depends on state to state ?
Appreciate your replies.
Thanks
amitjoey
09-29 03:55 PM
We are spinning in circles here and it is like reinventing the wheel. This is THE grassroots org �THAT you want to set-up. already set up to achieve exactly that � YES, YES �We want Congress to introduce a bill to reduce backlogs. The core goal of IV is to have a bill that has our provisions. That is exactly what this organization was set up to achieve. You seem to be a newcomer to this struggle. Have you followed IV from 2005 Dec when a buch of members got together on some other forums and watched helplessly as good provisions (that were meant to allievate our troubles) were taken out at the last minute from a bill during debate.
Since then we have tried and tried and frankly have matured enough to understand that the politics of the immigration issue is complex and any standalone bill �just for us- has no chance.
Our provisions have to be clubbed with all the rest of the minor and major groups � that want reform. There is the nurses lobby, the doctors, the illegal lobby, the dream activists, and many other fringe groups, they all want their issues to be addressed. The anti-immigrants are a big opposition to any small relief that comes up in debate. NOW- We have learnt that we need to work with all these groups, form alliances and lobby hard to get a bill that has more support.
If you go meet with your lawmakers you will understand that our issue is a miniscule little piece of a bigger issue of Immigration. And different varying and sometimes opposing groups have to be accommodated. The politics of immigration is convulted with different factions of the society wanting different things � Our little issue is straightforward and we enjoy a lot more support for our provisions, unfortunately we were clearly told that we have to be clubbed with these other groups when it comes to seeking a bill for reform. We are being held hostage also by the Hispanic lobbyists, that feel that if smaller bills come up and are passed, there will be no apetite for their bigger issue of legalizing a big core of mostly Hispanic illegal immigrants.
FOR A RECAP- after this administration came into office �Jan 09- We had hopes and were promised that CIR (Comprehensive Immigration Reform) will be taken up, if that fails then smaller bills will be allowed to be taken up. If you have watched the developments carefully �There was never a time and a lot of groups including IV lobbied and lobbied hard to be heard and to get a bill but- the legislative calendar with so much other priorities had no space for any immigration bill this year. After the healthcare bill, Nobody has had any energy for a big controversial bill.
Long story-short is YES, we want a bill (either clubbed with others) or amendments inserted into a bill- But have not been able to get it done.
The reason for this failure is us- IV Members. We have not met our lawmakers in the numbers that are important to make an impact. We have to do it every month- building pressure to get a positive sympathetic response. Now some members (including yours truly) have gone and met our respective lawmakers more than 6-8 times in the last year, but that is again not enough, that is just 20-25 odd members compared to total IV Strength of 40,000members. It has to be an ongoing effort, just like the dream activisits have done, they meet with lawmakers regularly, highlight their frustrations and are open to media �giving interviews and keeping their issue alive in the limelight.
IV has come up with specific recommendations for what we would like to see in a bill/s for our community. IV actively analyses any bill that comes up or has a chance to come up for debate. If you want to get your hands on that document, contact Anu or Pappu and ask for the IV_Advocacy package.
We do have a paid lobbying firm that represent our interests and educates lawmakers. This is not enough, because during debates lawmakers behave as if they do not have highly skilled immigrants in their constituency and so do not have to pay attention. This is mainly IV members fault, since we have not been able to visit lawmakers offices in the numbers that we should. Our members need to show up at lawmakers offices and educate them. Tell them you live in their constituency and represent IV so that when the lobbying firm does their work, they are paying attention and our voices are not ignored or drowned.
Individual members need to be open, honest, and courageous enough to talk to their lawmakers and media about issues we face. Just crying and debating on IV's website does not help. Talk about introducing a bill for us to your lawmakers � not here on IV.
We do not get any attention, because we do not raise our issues and we are not vocal about the problems we face. Now granted, we are a small minority compared to the huge lobby and muscle power the undocumented have. But we need to educate the lawmakers about us. We face real issues and our lives have been held in limbo. We have done everything right, played by the rules, stood in the line, pay taxes, contribute to the society. To get this message across, we need to visit lawmakers offices,and educate them.
This advocacy and raising awareness is an ongoing effort, it cannot be a one day or one month thing. We will not get anywhere overnight, perceptions have to change, there is a whole lot of dynamics at play. The timing, legislative calender and politics in general. But we as a group need to stand up, talk about the issues we face and have our voices heard.
Since then we have tried and tried and frankly have matured enough to understand that the politics of the immigration issue is complex and any standalone bill �just for us- has no chance.
Our provisions have to be clubbed with all the rest of the minor and major groups � that want reform. There is the nurses lobby, the doctors, the illegal lobby, the dream activists, and many other fringe groups, they all want their issues to be addressed. The anti-immigrants are a big opposition to any small relief that comes up in debate. NOW- We have learnt that we need to work with all these groups, form alliances and lobby hard to get a bill that has more support.
If you go meet with your lawmakers you will understand that our issue is a miniscule little piece of a bigger issue of Immigration. And different varying and sometimes opposing groups have to be accommodated. The politics of immigration is convulted with different factions of the society wanting different things � Our little issue is straightforward and we enjoy a lot more support for our provisions, unfortunately we were clearly told that we have to be clubbed with these other groups when it comes to seeking a bill for reform. We are being held hostage also by the Hispanic lobbyists, that feel that if smaller bills come up and are passed, there will be no apetite for their bigger issue of legalizing a big core of mostly Hispanic illegal immigrants.
FOR A RECAP- after this administration came into office �Jan 09- We had hopes and were promised that CIR (Comprehensive Immigration Reform) will be taken up, if that fails then smaller bills will be allowed to be taken up. If you have watched the developments carefully �There was never a time and a lot of groups including IV lobbied and lobbied hard to be heard and to get a bill but- the legislative calendar with so much other priorities had no space for any immigration bill this year. After the healthcare bill, Nobody has had any energy for a big controversial bill.
Long story-short is YES, we want a bill (either clubbed with others) or amendments inserted into a bill- But have not been able to get it done.
The reason for this failure is us- IV Members. We have not met our lawmakers in the numbers that are important to make an impact. We have to do it every month- building pressure to get a positive sympathetic response. Now some members (including yours truly) have gone and met our respective lawmakers more than 6-8 times in the last year, but that is again not enough, that is just 20-25 odd members compared to total IV Strength of 40,000members. It has to be an ongoing effort, just like the dream activisits have done, they meet with lawmakers regularly, highlight their frustrations and are open to media �giving interviews and keeping their issue alive in the limelight.
IV has come up with specific recommendations for what we would like to see in a bill/s for our community. IV actively analyses any bill that comes up or has a chance to come up for debate. If you want to get your hands on that document, contact Anu or Pappu and ask for the IV_Advocacy package.
We do have a paid lobbying firm that represent our interests and educates lawmakers. This is not enough, because during debates lawmakers behave as if they do not have highly skilled immigrants in their constituency and so do not have to pay attention. This is mainly IV members fault, since we have not been able to visit lawmakers offices in the numbers that we should. Our members need to show up at lawmakers offices and educate them. Tell them you live in their constituency and represent IV so that when the lobbying firm does their work, they are paying attention and our voices are not ignored or drowned.
Individual members need to be open, honest, and courageous enough to talk to their lawmakers and media about issues we face. Just crying and debating on IV's website does not help. Talk about introducing a bill for us to your lawmakers � not here on IV.
We do not get any attention, because we do not raise our issues and we are not vocal about the problems we face. Now granted, we are a small minority compared to the huge lobby and muscle power the undocumented have. But we need to educate the lawmakers about us. We face real issues and our lives have been held in limbo. We have done everything right, played by the rules, stood in the line, pay taxes, contribute to the society. To get this message across, we need to visit lawmakers offices,and educate them.
This advocacy and raising awareness is an ongoing effort, it cannot be a one day or one month thing. We will not get anywhere overnight, perceptions have to change, there is a whole lot of dynamics at play. The timing, legislative calender and politics in general. But we as a group need to stand up, talk about the issues we face and have our voices heard.
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snathan
05-27 11:06 AM
As the template is ready, I urge everyone to move and write the letter. But I am waiting for MMS reply as he has collected the details. So far I am not getting any response on this. Sooner you move, its better for you.
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qesehmk
07-25 05:21 PM
Somebody left me a message to answer this so I am jumping in. Let me know if my answer seems reasonable.
1) EB2 ROW is not 48K .... it is about 69K (ROW = all countries except IC).
2) EB2 ROW will add average 30K to this inventory.... so lets say in this economy they add 15-20K. So what EB2ROW has consumed is about 20-25K until today out of the 42K avlbl for the entire category and 36K for ROW EB3.
3) Tll jun 04 there are about 9K cases more left. So that will just about bring EB3ROW to 30-35K annual consumption - same as its quota.
Will the dates for EB3ROW move beyond Jun 04? May be Dec 04 max. The chances of movng it beyond that are less.
In other words .... the visas are NOT being utilized anywhere else. Its just the consumption is high.
This has been a posted by a fellow member 5 pages ago.. ARE THEY DIVERTING EB3 NUMBERS to some other categories?
Pappu or someone knowledgeable about backlog..please answer.
EB3 ROW is at Jun 2004. But as per latest USCIS inventory, EB3 ROW pending 485's are around 48,000. Visa numbers available every year for EB3 is approximately 42k. If you deduct the backlogged EB3 countries (4x3000) visa numbers, the total comes down to 30k for EB3 ROW. So EB3 ROW should become current or atleast Jul 07 in another 1.5 years. If this is not going to happen, it means they are diverting the EB3 numbers to some other categories.
my 2 cents
Note : If EB3 ROW has 30k visas per year and pending EB3 ROW 485's are only 50k.. why it is still hanging in 2004. God only knows !!
1) EB2 ROW is not 48K .... it is about 69K (ROW = all countries except IC).
2) EB2 ROW will add average 30K to this inventory.... so lets say in this economy they add 15-20K. So what EB2ROW has consumed is about 20-25K until today out of the 42K avlbl for the entire category and 36K for ROW EB3.
3) Tll jun 04 there are about 9K cases more left. So that will just about bring EB3ROW to 30-35K annual consumption - same as its quota.
Will the dates for EB3ROW move beyond Jun 04? May be Dec 04 max. The chances of movng it beyond that are less.
In other words .... the visas are NOT being utilized anywhere else. Its just the consumption is high.
This has been a posted by a fellow member 5 pages ago.. ARE THEY DIVERTING EB3 NUMBERS to some other categories?
Pappu or someone knowledgeable about backlog..please answer.
EB3 ROW is at Jun 2004. But as per latest USCIS inventory, EB3 ROW pending 485's are around 48,000. Visa numbers available every year for EB3 is approximately 42k. If you deduct the backlogged EB3 countries (4x3000) visa numbers, the total comes down to 30k for EB3 ROW. So EB3 ROW should become current or atleast Jul 07 in another 1.5 years. If this is not going to happen, it means they are diverting the EB3 numbers to some other categories.
my 2 cents
Note : If EB3 ROW has 30k visas per year and pending EB3 ROW 485's are only 50k.. why it is still hanging in 2004. God only knows !!
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sanjay
09-02 05:04 PM
Congrats to all the lucky ones. Enjoy the green freedom. Wish you all the best for your bright future and long life
Best Wishes to all the hopefuls.
I am in waiting game. Hoping against hope to go green.
BTW, today I treid calling USCIS. First the 1st level representative spoke and she straightway created a SR for me and my daughter. Once she finished that part Politely I asked her to transfer to an IO. Luckily without any wait call got connected to an IO. Had very brief conversation with him. He was fixated on my EAD being valid till August 2010, so according to him I don't have to worry about. But I persisted with my line of questions like current status, whether it is pre-adjudicated?, whether all clearances are done etc. Only thing he replied was "Your Case is in REVIEW". I asked him what does review means. His answer was review means review. Our conversation stopped there.
What do you guys think on "Your case is under review"?
HA HA HA.
Me too got same reply except mine was " extended review ". Don't know the heck about it.
Looks like a standard answer from them. Just like one we used to hear on phone in India for call waiting - "Kripya dhyan dain. Aap katar main hain."
Best Wishes to all the hopefuls.
I am in waiting game. Hoping against hope to go green.
BTW, today I treid calling USCIS. First the 1st level representative spoke and she straightway created a SR for me and my daughter. Once she finished that part Politely I asked her to transfer to an IO. Luckily without any wait call got connected to an IO. Had very brief conversation with him. He was fixated on my EAD being valid till August 2010, so according to him I don't have to worry about. But I persisted with my line of questions like current status, whether it is pre-adjudicated?, whether all clearances are done etc. Only thing he replied was "Your Case is in REVIEW". I asked him what does review means. His answer was review means review. Our conversation stopped there.
What do you guys think on "Your case is under review"?
HA HA HA.
Me too got same reply except mine was " extended review ". Don't know the heck about it.
Looks like a standard answer from them. Just like one we used to hear on phone in India for call waiting - "Kripya dhyan dain. Aap katar main hain."
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gsc999
04-09 05:48 PM
I am happy to report that Team IV Memberships have started rolling in from a few non-IVians who support us legal immigrants!! This is very encouraging.
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Great, we need support for American citizens. This helps
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Great, we need support for American citizens. This helps
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PlainSpeak
01-12 02:49 PM
what about highschool dropouts vs college dropouts? literates vs illiterates? same wine new bottle too? then why the distinction of EB1, EB2 or EB3 either? Just hand them visas as soon as they get down that plane :)
And .....................
Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding
Ladies and gentlemen we have a winner (Claps Claps Claps Claps Claps)
You voice of reason was being sorely missed by everyone me most of all.
Let me guess youyr priority would be EB2 (Obviously) and your priority date would be somewhere after 2007 and you deserve to get GC before EB3 2005. Now that you mention it the logic is so clear that i am kicking myself for missing the obvious
Mr waitsolong - NOW Do you now see what i mean about maturity of the forum
Mr FuriousPride - Do you read the whole post or just pick the ones which hurt your pride and comment on it. I guess i answered the question myself. We are having a discussion here. A discussion by definition is give and take of ideas. (We dont have to agrree on everything but we agree to listen to teh other's point of view). Now if we are going to have a civilized discussion i am open to it but if we are going to have statements like (Handing out visas at airport) these then we are on two different cereberal levels. No matching of minds
And .....................
Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding
Ladies and gentlemen we have a winner (Claps Claps Claps Claps Claps)
You voice of reason was being sorely missed by everyone me most of all.
Let me guess youyr priority would be EB2 (Obviously) and your priority date would be somewhere after 2007 and you deserve to get GC before EB3 2005. Now that you mention it the logic is so clear that i am kicking myself for missing the obvious
Mr waitsolong - NOW Do you now see what i mean about maturity of the forum
Mr FuriousPride - Do you read the whole post or just pick the ones which hurt your pride and comment on it. I guess i answered the question myself. We are having a discussion here. A discussion by definition is give and take of ideas. (We dont have to agrree on everything but we agree to listen to teh other's point of view). Now if we are going to have a civilized discussion i am open to it but if we are going to have statements like (Handing out visas at airport) these then we are on two different cereberal levels. No matching of minds
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pal351
05-11 07:14 PM
Hi abhisam - I did the same. What happened to your EAD renewal application.?
Hi guys,
I live in LA and sent my renewal application to NSC on April 1st and reached on April 2nd, but they forwarded my application to PHX. Arizona, then check cashed and recieved reciept in mail on April 21st. it took 21 days for me.
-Pal.
Hi guys,
I live in LA and sent my renewal application to NSC on April 1st and reached on April 2nd, but they forwarded my application to PHX. Arizona, then check cashed and recieved reciept in mail on April 21st. it took 21 days for me.
-Pal.
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dreamgc_real
05-11 12:09 PM
I will be taking my child to India for the first time. She has a US passport, both parents are from India - I am not sure if I should just take the 10 yr visa for her or apply for the overseas citizenship card. Is there a benefit to use one over the other? How long does it take to process each of them? Please help. Thanks.
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seahawks
09-20 12:39 AM
I met lots of people, I remember a lot of names, but how can I write down all the names, it will be a long list. Oh forgot, I met my wife too there:)
It was fun to meet so many people, its amazing, you read threads, you see IV handles and you try to be imaginative on who that person would be, but you just can't put a face behind the IV handle. Then you get to meet them in person and you say my name is this and my name is that and then we look surprised, who.. and then the question comes, whats your IV handle. Then we talk as we have known each other for years. We all fight for the same cause, we all have compelling stories very personal, very painful, the never ending wait for getting a green card. Some of them are in with us even though they have crossed the hurdle of getting a green card, because they believe in our cause, they don't want anyone to go through the pain all of us are going through. Hats off to all.. the train has left the station now, we have one voice, IMMIGRATION VOICE!!!!
It was fun to meet so many people, its amazing, you read threads, you see IV handles and you try to be imaginative on who that person would be, but you just can't put a face behind the IV handle. Then you get to meet them in person and you say my name is this and my name is that and then we look surprised, who.. and then the question comes, whats your IV handle. Then we talk as we have known each other for years. We all fight for the same cause, we all have compelling stories very personal, very painful, the never ending wait for getting a green card. Some of them are in with us even though they have crossed the hurdle of getting a green card, because they believe in our cause, they don't want anyone to go through the pain all of us are going through. Hats off to all.. the train has left the station now, we have one voice, IMMIGRATION VOICE!!!!
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ruchigup
09-02 11:41 AM
Looks like TSC is adjudicating most of the cases. NSC is, as usual, its slow self.
Yea....NSC sucks.
Yea....NSC sucks.
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mbawa2574
07-12 07:29 PM
Gonzales flowers Statement is gone from USCIS website. Probably Press/Legislature asked too many questions that they were forced to withdraw.
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CaveMan232
04-24 11:18 PM
Filed for renewal on 04/05 and still waiting for receipts. Current EAD expires last week of July and am running the risk of losing my job if I don't get it by then.
Does anyone know what are my chances of getting it before then? Also, what are my other options at this point or before I lose my job. I read about interim EAD's on other posts, is this still an option?
Your response is highly appreciated.
Sincerely.
Does anyone know what are my chances of getting it before then? Also, what are my other options at this point or before I lose my job. I read about interim EAD's on other posts, is this still an option?
Your response is highly appreciated.
Sincerely.
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Marphad
04-08 02:53 PM
I need to go to some place where I can spit out my frustration. This is just not done. Completely unfair.
dkshitij
01-04 01:19 PM
I am renewing my passport at Houston and sending it via mail. I was on F-1 originally and changed to H1-B last year. I do not have a H1-B stamp yet. What visa document or visa photocopies should I attach? Do they have to be notarized?
I have only have the new I-94 showing my H1-B status.
Thanks.
Another thing, my employer has the original approval notice I-797, I only have the I-94 part of it.
I have only have the new I-94 showing my H1-B status.
Thanks.
Another thing, my employer has the original approval notice I-797, I only have the I-94 part of it.
Rabbit
05-03 08:45 AM
My husband and I are both on H1 now. My H1 will not expire until 2009 but I plan to quit my job and transfer to H4 for family reasons. Suppose I quit from H1 on June 1, 2007, what is the best time for me to file I539 to transfer to H4? Do I need to file right now or just anytime before June 1?
Another question is that if I quit H1 on June 1, but the change of status to H4 will not be approved until later, say, September 1, 2007, what will be my visa status between those time? Will I be considered out-of-status?
Thanks for your help!
Another question is that if I quit H1 on June 1, but the change of status to H4 will not be approved until later, say, September 1, 2007, what will be my visa status between those time? Will I be considered out-of-status?
Thanks for your help!