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07-08 03:10 AM
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Deliver on: Tuesday
Jul. 10, 2007
Delivery by: FedEx�, DHL� or UPS�
Deliver to: Emilio Gonzalez
Business
20 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington DC, DC 20529
US
202-307-1565
Occasion: Other
Gift Message and Signature: "Kindly do not return our I-485 petitions in July and honor the original DOS visa bulletin"
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F488 $ 24.99
$ (6.24)
Service Charges $ 13.99
Taxes $ 0.00
Subtotal $ 32.74
Be the change you want to see in the world
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Gandhi, The Mahatma
Deliver on: Tuesday
Jul. 10, 2007
Delivery by: FedEx�, DHL� or UPS�
Deliver to: Emilio Gonzalez
Business
20 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington DC, DC 20529
US
202-307-1565
Occasion: Other
Gift Message and Signature: "Kindly do not return our I-485 petitions in July and honor the original DOS visa bulletin"
Sweetheart Mixed Rose Bouquet
F488 $ 24.99
$ (6.24)
Service Charges $ 13.99
Taxes $ 0.00
Subtotal $ 32.74
Be the change you want to see in the world
----------------------------
Gandhi, The Mahatma
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Libra
07-17 08:03 PM
A big thank you and a small contribution to IV
contributed 100$.
I thank all new contributors, I think the efforts from members in the last 2 weeks are truly inspiring.
If you haven't done already, please consider contributing and donating some money to IV. It is entirely run from our donations (and the shortfall made up by the core team).
Talk is cheap guys, put your money where your mouth is so we can continue fighting for us all! The battle is won, the war is far from over
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=25#HowToContribute
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contributed 100$.
I thank all new contributors, I think the efforts from members in the last 2 weeks are truly inspiring.
If you haven't done already, please consider contributing and donating some money to IV. It is entirely run from our donations (and the shortfall made up by the core team).
Talk is cheap guys, put your money where your mouth is so we can continue fighting for us all! The battle is won, the war is far from over
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=25#HowToContribute
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javadeveloper
07-21 08:59 PM
My Desi-employer started my paychecks from Sep 1st , though I started working for him from July 26th.Even if it is employer's fault we are the ones who are suffering.
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knnmbd
04-27 02:58 PM
Six years in US complete
Previous employer cheated by not filing GC
So need to change employer for filing GC
EB-3
I-140 approved with current employer
Not able to file I-485 because of retrogression
Wife not able to work
Moving around for jobs with family
Cheating Employer
Frustation with H1B Extension and stamping
Not able to Plan to go to India because of Interview dates
Not able to plan on good school Child's education
Not able to spend more money on good health insurance
Lot of time and money spent on H1B Extension and stamping
Signing short term lease for Apt's and moving around
Drivers license based on H1B papers
No benefits like 401K etc with small employers
Sick with the current employer
Hey, you just put the entire GC process in a nutshell. I understand a lot of folks are in the same situation, but I think IV is looking for stories that will help us push our case forward. The picture you paint is very morose and depressing (and I sympathizes with you, so please do not get me wrong) and we hope that this whole situation that all of us are in turns out to be a bad nightmare and we wake up to see some hope again.
Ragz4u:
Have you tried contacting post-docs (usually EB1 or EB2 NIW, non-IT folks) at universities pursuing research who are affected by retrogression. I think you can find a lot of people on the IIT forums that float around the web. I am sure we can find really successful(well almost) with sorry stories and restrained in career advancement due to EB retrogression.
Previous employer cheated by not filing GC
So need to change employer for filing GC
EB-3
I-140 approved with current employer
Not able to file I-485 because of retrogression
Wife not able to work
Moving around for jobs with family
Cheating Employer
Frustation with H1B Extension and stamping
Not able to Plan to go to India because of Interview dates
Not able to plan on good school Child's education
Not able to spend more money on good health insurance
Lot of time and money spent on H1B Extension and stamping
Signing short term lease for Apt's and moving around
Drivers license based on H1B papers
No benefits like 401K etc with small employers
Sick with the current employer
Hey, you just put the entire GC process in a nutshell. I understand a lot of folks are in the same situation, but I think IV is looking for stories that will help us push our case forward. The picture you paint is very morose and depressing (and I sympathizes with you, so please do not get me wrong) and we hope that this whole situation that all of us are in turns out to be a bad nightmare and we wake up to see some hope again.
Ragz4u:
Have you tried contacting post-docs (usually EB1 or EB2 NIW, non-IT folks) at universities pursuing research who are affected by retrogression. I think you can find a lot of people on the IIT forums that float around the web. I am sure we can find really successful(well almost) with sorry stories and restrained in career advancement due to EB retrogression.
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unitednations
02-05 12:04 AM
Having diversity AND country quota for skilled employment is affirmative action gone waco. EB skilled immigration is to allow businesses to hire foreign labor for jobs they can't find American Citizens. Now to restrict businesses to discriminate based on the country of birth is just riduculous. Next do Universities apply affirmative action to their international student recruitement?
Indians and Chinese make up the largest group of international students in Engineering and Science. US citizens make up less than 50% of those graduating in Science and Engineering in Master's and PhD programs. Now businesses should not be penalized if they can't fill their highly skilled jobs with Iranians and Tongans and any other ROW countries.
We have a diversity lottery for nationals of those countries who would not make it out on merit and need a leg up. There may be a few Indian consulting companies who favor Indians, but they are the people who pay wages and know best. Similarly just because Americans prefer to buy Japanese cars we can't create an "affirmative action" and prevent americans from buying Japanese cars. We can't prevent walmart from stocking chinese products. So why force employers not to hire Indians and Chinese through creating quotas for highly skilled jobs?
No meaningful immigration reforms can be achieved as long as skilled immigration is based on country quotas. Next we know there will be quotas for marrying foreigners to add to diversity. If you marry a mexican there is retrogression but if you marry a citizen of Vanuatu then green card is processed in ROW:)
I was just making my point how ridiculous it is to have quotas for skilled immigration but not for others including asylum cases.
I'm not saying it is right. I think there should be no quotas; diversity or otherwise. It should follow normal business practices. Can't find american, we need you now you start working. This is how it works in everyday business.
However; we need to understand why doesn't immigration follow normal business practices. is it that we place more value on our contributions then what the country does. Is EB just another route to get people here like family, asylum, refugees, etc?
Although it may sound ridiculous but why is everyone want to put any limits to it. If proper controls can be put in place that there are genuine jobs and candidates are genuine then there shouldn't be any limits. How come no one wants to go for this solution. It actually makes more sense then just increasing the quota or not including dependents, etc.
Indians and Chinese make up the largest group of international students in Engineering and Science. US citizens make up less than 50% of those graduating in Science and Engineering in Master's and PhD programs. Now businesses should not be penalized if they can't fill their highly skilled jobs with Iranians and Tongans and any other ROW countries.
We have a diversity lottery for nationals of those countries who would not make it out on merit and need a leg up. There may be a few Indian consulting companies who favor Indians, but they are the people who pay wages and know best. Similarly just because Americans prefer to buy Japanese cars we can't create an "affirmative action" and prevent americans from buying Japanese cars. We can't prevent walmart from stocking chinese products. So why force employers not to hire Indians and Chinese through creating quotas for highly skilled jobs?
No meaningful immigration reforms can be achieved as long as skilled immigration is based on country quotas. Next we know there will be quotas for marrying foreigners to add to diversity. If you marry a mexican there is retrogression but if you marry a citizen of Vanuatu then green card is processed in ROW:)
I was just making my point how ridiculous it is to have quotas for skilled immigration but not for others including asylum cases.
I'm not saying it is right. I think there should be no quotas; diversity or otherwise. It should follow normal business practices. Can't find american, we need you now you start working. This is how it works in everyday business.
However; we need to understand why doesn't immigration follow normal business practices. is it that we place more value on our contributions then what the country does. Is EB just another route to get people here like family, asylum, refugees, etc?
Although it may sound ridiculous but why is everyone want to put any limits to it. If proper controls can be put in place that there are genuine jobs and candidates are genuine then there shouldn't be any limits. How come no one wants to go for this solution. It actually makes more sense then just increasing the quota or not including dependents, etc.
nosightofgc
11-28 03:26 PM
Just contributed another one time $100. Keep up the good work IV.
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sirinme
12-20 12:37 PM
I just made my contribution thru PayPal.
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GotFreedom?
08-11 11:14 AM
BUMMER EB3
SWEET EB2
Lets hope for the best in the next VB.
SWEET EB2
Lets hope for the best in the next VB.
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ssreenu
04-14 01:18 PM
It is unfair to say that many EB3 and EB2 folks are stuck in GC queue for more than 10 years, FOR NO FAULT OF THEIRS. Yes, they are stuck but there is fault, in most cases, they knew they were risking it by changing employers for petty raises or other reason. If they followed the original H1B rule and stayed with sponsoring employer, GC for EB3 took a max of 7 years even with the old system of RIR (not PERM) or even without RIR - and that is MAX....very rare.
If your statements are true why are the dates backloged and EB3 stuck at April 2002? Employment based greencards should be given preference than others for several reasons:
1. Getting into US legally
2. Living legally
3. Got into US on invitation by the employer (I am talking about the most genuine cases)
4. Intention was dual (to work in US and there by immigrate)
5. Generating revenue to the govt by paying taxes
If the employers have not offered to apply for permanent residency people would have not had any intentions of staying back in US and to buy houses. They would have worked for allocated period of time and have gone back to home country like they do in most of the European countries.
If your statements are true why are the dates backloged and EB3 stuck at April 2002? Employment based greencards should be given preference than others for several reasons:
1. Getting into US legally
2. Living legally
3. Got into US on invitation by the employer (I am talking about the most genuine cases)
4. Intention was dual (to work in US and there by immigrate)
5. Generating revenue to the govt by paying taxes
If the employers have not offered to apply for permanent residency people would have not had any intentions of staying back in US and to buy houses. They would have worked for allocated period of time and have gone back to home country like they do in most of the European countries.
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chanduv23
07-05 10:01 PM
I think that the IV core is aware of this campaign. They are not against it, as far as I understand, though obviously, there is no direct endorsement from them either.
I think this is a great idea to get media attention - something different and unique, and media always loves these things. The only thing that can doom it to failure is lack of enough numbers.
If we go and tell a journalist about this campaign, the first question we will be asked is, "how many flowers are you talking about?" and if our answer would 50 or 100, then the story dies right there. 250,000 affected skilled immigrants and only 100 of them are enthu enough to send flowers - well that's no story :rolleyes:.
So the only thing I can say is that at worst, this action will do you no harm and you will be out of 30-40 dollars. But at best, this can give us a media spotlight - and I think it is worth it.
Well no one wants to spend $20 to contribute to IV but ready $30 for flowers and post it to Gonzalez :)
The idea that core wants to float is to have an effective campaign under the IV umbrella. Please come up with more innovative ideas and discuss with core.
I think this is a great idea to get media attention - something different and unique, and media always loves these things. The only thing that can doom it to failure is lack of enough numbers.
If we go and tell a journalist about this campaign, the first question we will be asked is, "how many flowers are you talking about?" and if our answer would 50 or 100, then the story dies right there. 250,000 affected skilled immigrants and only 100 of them are enthu enough to send flowers - well that's no story :rolleyes:.
So the only thing I can say is that at worst, this action will do you no harm and you will be out of 30-40 dollars. But at best, this can give us a media spotlight - and I think it is worth it.
Well no one wants to spend $20 to contribute to IV but ready $30 for flowers and post it to Gonzalez :)
The idea that core wants to float is to have an effective campaign under the IV umbrella. Please come up with more innovative ideas and discuss with core.
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ItIsNotFunny
03-06 03:01 PM
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maddipati1
07-17 09:35 PM
HEARTY CONGRATS TO ALL OF US AND SPECIAL THANKS TO IV ... We guys have showed that UNITED WE STAND !!!
My request to all of us (potential immigrants), please do not forget this phase. This should always be remembered as our victory with integrity. Even when we become green card holders or citizens at later stage, we should always support a great cause like this. We have to support our fellow immigrants as well.
May God Bless Us All.
WELL SAID dipsangel
My request to all of us (potential immigrants), please do not forget this phase. This should always be remembered as our victory with integrity. Even when we become green card holders or citizens at later stage, we should always support a great cause like this. We have to support our fellow immigrants as well.
May God Bless Us All.
WELL SAID dipsangel
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sandy2575
12-19 07:58 PM
I am pretty new to this forum. Could you someone explan me How to I join Team IV and donate $20?
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satishku_2000
07-20 02:54 PM
Hi Everybody,
I would like to start this thread for the benefit of people who do not have a straightforward immigration history. In a nutshell, I hope in the future this thread will serve to provide information and advice on
Out of Status issues - Inconsistency with what's stamped in the passport and what you're actually doing
Unlawful Stay - Stay beyond the date in the I-94 card
The main focus will be on what these things can do to your i) AOS/CP filings ;and/or ii) future non-immigrant visas.
I came to this country because of a twist of fate and had zero knowledge of the immigration laws here. Through the school of hard knocks, I have gained considerable knowledge about this convoluted process that affects us all and hopefully what I learnt will be of use to other people in the same boat.
A special mention goes out to "unitednations" for his skill and knowledge about various issues. Thanks buddy, you're a huge asset to all of us.
Dude ,
You been thru a lot and looks like you still have some sanity left in you. Keep up the good spirit ... Good luck with your 485 ...:)
I would like to start this thread for the benefit of people who do not have a straightforward immigration history. In a nutshell, I hope in the future this thread will serve to provide information and advice on
Out of Status issues - Inconsistency with what's stamped in the passport and what you're actually doing
Unlawful Stay - Stay beyond the date in the I-94 card
The main focus will be on what these things can do to your i) AOS/CP filings ;and/or ii) future non-immigrant visas.
I came to this country because of a twist of fate and had zero knowledge of the immigration laws here. Through the school of hard knocks, I have gained considerable knowledge about this convoluted process that affects us all and hopefully what I learnt will be of use to other people in the same boat.
A special mention goes out to "unitednations" for his skill and knowledge about various issues. Thanks buddy, you're a huge asset to all of us.
Dude ,
You been thru a lot and looks like you still have some sanity left in you. Keep up the good spirit ... Good luck with your 485 ...:)
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rayudu
04-09 09:54 AM
I am going to file my h1 application tomorrow under the master's qouta. I know its nearly impossible that my petition would be approved but I have no other choice. I just have one question:
1. Should I go for a premium processing?
<<My OPT expires may 15th and my employer is still willing to file my h1 tomorrow. If I go for premium processing, that will atleast stop me from getting an admit into a community college this fall to maintain my status>>
Advice please. Also there is no way they will increase the h1b on the master's qouta, right ?
I think you need to wait until USCIS finish they Lottery/Sorting process.
At this moment they won't accept your application.
Please contact your Lawyer for accurate information
1. Should I go for a premium processing?
<<My OPT expires may 15th and my employer is still willing to file my h1 tomorrow. If I go for premium processing, that will atleast stop me from getting an admit into a community college this fall to maintain my status>>
Advice please. Also there is no way they will increase the h1b on the master's qouta, right ?
I think you need to wait until USCIS finish they Lottery/Sorting process.
At this moment they won't accept your application.
Please contact your Lawyer for accurate information
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08-14 01:47 PM
I guess if your receipt number starts with SRC, it was processed at TSC.
It starts from LIN so its NSC I guess!
It starts from LIN so its NSC I guess!
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07-05 12:33 PM
ORDER ID:
EGONZA0EG92A
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RECIPIENT INFORMATION:
Name: Emilio T. Gonzalez
Company: US Citizenship and Immigration Service
Address: 20 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20529
Card Message: I pray to GOD to give you the strength to get
the EB Visa Predictions right in the
future...
A July EB applicant
Day Phone: 202-307-1565
Evening Phone:
E-mail:
EGONZA0EG92A
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RECIPIENT INFORMATION:
Name: Emilio T. Gonzalez
Company: US Citizenship and Immigration Service
Address: 20 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20529
Card Message: I pray to GOD to give you the strength to get
the EB Visa Predictions right in the
future...
A July EB applicant
Day Phone: 202-307-1565
Evening Phone:
E-mail:
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number30
05-11 04:24 PM
Sir,
Here is why I am interested in this discussion.
1.> I am from india and retrogression affects indians, hence I wish my community can fight against this in a democratic civil way as I have always said.
2.> If ppl like you, who has no profile and who claims to have become US Citizen last week, comes here and fuels the fire to divide us - this is not going un-noticed.
3.> I feel that instead of crying over small # of LC subs, we fight for something where everyone gets benefitted. If we are successful in visa recapture or end of retrogression, everyone of us would get gc if eligible. what effect of lc sub would be there in that case?
4.> however if ppl like you come and make us fight among overselves, we reach no where. May be this is what you want. isn't it?
5.> if a person is slightly over-weight, and if he is detected to have 2 cancers also - what should he do? worry about cancer first or that extra 2 pounds of weight? similary in current situation, the lcsub is slight over weight compared to cancer like 'large unused visa numbers' and 'unfair country qouta'.
I want my community to be united and fight bigger problem first. This is my interest. I fail to understand yours.
Now you are acting like crying baby.
Labor substitution was never illegal unless you have purchased it. Hijacking the priority date is incorrect according INA. If you are not feeling pity about the fellow immigrants who suffered injustice (also from India) you are selfish a individual. FYI more than 60% of the 2007 July fiasco were substitutes
I am neither IV core nor you (as per Profile). So all these guys can do is to bring this issue to their attention. So they can decide this battle needs to be fought or not.
You can check my earlier posts to know my status.
As for as fighting is concerned you are the one who started the fight calling them jealous. Since you do not have any points you are using such slurs. Please be gracious on such forums. Even if this is successful it will not affect you because your priority date was current when you applied the I-485. There might be delay which you can overcome by fighting for removing the country quota.
Here is why I am interested in this discussion.
1.> I am from india and retrogression affects indians, hence I wish my community can fight against this in a democratic civil way as I have always said.
2.> If ppl like you, who has no profile and who claims to have become US Citizen last week, comes here and fuels the fire to divide us - this is not going un-noticed.
3.> I feel that instead of crying over small # of LC subs, we fight for something where everyone gets benefitted. If we are successful in visa recapture or end of retrogression, everyone of us would get gc if eligible. what effect of lc sub would be there in that case?
4.> however if ppl like you come and make us fight among overselves, we reach no where. May be this is what you want. isn't it?
5.> if a person is slightly over-weight, and if he is detected to have 2 cancers also - what should he do? worry about cancer first or that extra 2 pounds of weight? similary in current situation, the lcsub is slight over weight compared to cancer like 'large unused visa numbers' and 'unfair country qouta'.
I want my community to be united and fight bigger problem first. This is my interest. I fail to understand yours.
Now you are acting like crying baby.
Labor substitution was never illegal unless you have purchased it. Hijacking the priority date is incorrect according INA. If you are not feeling pity about the fellow immigrants who suffered injustice (also from India) you are selfish a individual. FYI more than 60% of the 2007 July fiasco were substitutes
I am neither IV core nor you (as per Profile). So all these guys can do is to bring this issue to their attention. So they can decide this battle needs to be fought or not.
You can check my earlier posts to know my status.
As for as fighting is concerned you are the one who started the fight calling them jealous. Since you do not have any points you are using such slurs. Please be gracious on such forums. Even if this is successful it will not affect you because your priority date was current when you applied the I-485. There might be delay which you can overcome by fighting for removing the country quota.
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rockstart
09-29 10:03 AM
All these happend to me on NWA and Lufthansa as well. It is just that day and time.
I have worst experience flying Gulf Air. I have never again used that airline. They treat you like bad and only way to get your rights is to fight and create a scene which I cannot do so best option is to avoid that airline.
I had recent experience with continental the flight got cancelled but the staff was good they immediately gave me tickets to Virgin Atlantic (which was earliest departure) but I had Advanced Parole and so could not take VA. Then I asked if I can get Qatar Airways and they did not ask any questions immediately booked me qatar. So my experience with continental at ticketing desk was awesome but the staff inside was not that great they were just Ok.
I feel Qatar is the best airline to fly. I prefer that one for now.
I have worst experience flying Gulf Air. I have never again used that airline. They treat you like bad and only way to get your rights is to fight and create a scene which I cannot do so best option is to avoid that airline.
I had recent experience with continental the flight got cancelled but the staff was good they immediately gave me tickets to Virgin Atlantic (which was earliest departure) but I had Advanced Parole and so could not take VA. Then I asked if I can get Qatar Airways and they did not ask any questions immediately booked me qatar. So my experience with continental at ticketing desk was awesome but the staff inside was not that great they were just Ok.
I feel Qatar is the best airline to fly. I prefer that one for now.
reedandbamboo
09-13 11:33 PM
If the majority of us are happy with the draft #3 above, lets move on to the next step:
LIST OF PERSONS TO SEND LETTER and POSTERS to:
1) Ombudsman
2) USCIS Director
3) NSC
4) TSC
5) CSC
6) VSC
7) Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren and the Immigration sub-committee(?) (SOMEBODY PLEASE VERIFY THIS?)
8) Charles Oppenheimer? (THIS NEEDS VERIFICATION .. anybody know his exact designation/title ? IS HE WITH DOS?)
9) President Bush
LIST OF PERSONS TO SEND LETTER and POSTERS to:
1) Ombudsman
2) USCIS Director
3) NSC
4) TSC
5) CSC
6) VSC
7) Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren and the Immigration sub-committee(?) (SOMEBODY PLEASE VERIFY THIS?)
8) Charles Oppenheimer? (THIS NEEDS VERIFICATION .. anybody know his exact designation/title ? IS HE WITH DOS?)
9) President Bush
santb1975
11-20 02:31 AM
You seem to be having lots of Good Ideas about funding. you also seem to have the art like you mentioned in your post. Do you want to take the lead on a Fund Raising Drive?. We will be happy to hand this over to you. Have Fun :-)
I never claimed any amount for this holiday gift on this thread yet but what if I want to donate $31 or per say $ 81 one time, I do not have that option now and so I will end up not donating now and wait and donate when I feel comfortable with $ 100/- or its multiplications. That is called turning away and if you guys do not see any danger into it I do not have any further words.
Fund raising is an art and I believe our current startegy is lacking that art. If you guys see the base of any major successful fund raising (Grass root level not Political ones, mind well we claim ourselves grass root level organization)you will always find donors with $ 1 to donors with $1 million donatiing as per their will. Grass root level fund raisings can not afford constraints which normally goes successful in political and/or industrial fund raisings.
Some of the strong supporters of current policy, in their argument, automatically assume that willing donor always used to spend $ 100/- frequently for drinks or food and may be living lavish life style. But they are partly wrong in their assumption...I myself never eat outside frequently. Even on a travel trip I cook my food by myself and I normally do not drink sodas or alcohol so what abhijitp has given a example at least does not remain valid for me but I can not say that it is completely out of proportion, as it has some valid logic but it can not be true for everyone.
Point is if we make a wrong based fund raising policy, we may hurt ourselves only. I know my option, if I want to donate odd figure now, I will not be able to donate it now, and I will have to wait till I feel comfortable donating $ 100/- and/or single digit multiplications of $ 100/- but would that be considered a good and wise option?
For an example, I am emotionally charged today and I want to donate $ 61/-(As I may plan that much only..for whatever reasons) but I am not able to donate so I will not donate and say after 4 months I will be able to plan $ 100/- but what if at that time I may not be emotionally charged to donate all together? So end effect would be I will end up donating nothing ( This is just an example..:))
And for the sake of argument if you enrolled yourself $50/- recurring, you did it willingly and so would you change to $ 25/- recurring if $ 25/-option is available to you? (Note: I think most people on this board fear that with having a minimum amount option, most people will turn to that only but that may not be 100% true. and even if it may become true it will end up having more donation flow) For most people answer is no, I believe, They will stick to $ 50/- recurring option as they can afford and they did it willingly. But with current policy we are completely turning away the people who may otherwise donate, for an example $ 20/- monthly-recurring policy may turn 40 new commited donors in whereas $50/- recurring option is creating only 10 donors and thus we may be ending up $ 300/- confirmed donation loss per month. This is just an example and based on assumption that less amount would attract more commited donors.
Having said all this, if majority memebrs and core still feel that this will be the only future standard for accepting donations then as I mentioned above, I will have only one option left and that is to wait till I become comfortable for donating $ 100/- ( I will remain emotionally charged...:))
I never claimed any amount for this holiday gift on this thread yet but what if I want to donate $31 or per say $ 81 one time, I do not have that option now and so I will end up not donating now and wait and donate when I feel comfortable with $ 100/- or its multiplications. That is called turning away and if you guys do not see any danger into it I do not have any further words.
Fund raising is an art and I believe our current startegy is lacking that art. If you guys see the base of any major successful fund raising (Grass root level not Political ones, mind well we claim ourselves grass root level organization)you will always find donors with $ 1 to donors with $1 million donatiing as per their will. Grass root level fund raisings can not afford constraints which normally goes successful in political and/or industrial fund raisings.
Some of the strong supporters of current policy, in their argument, automatically assume that willing donor always used to spend $ 100/- frequently for drinks or food and may be living lavish life style. But they are partly wrong in their assumption...I myself never eat outside frequently. Even on a travel trip I cook my food by myself and I normally do not drink sodas or alcohol so what abhijitp has given a example at least does not remain valid for me but I can not say that it is completely out of proportion, as it has some valid logic but it can not be true for everyone.
Point is if we make a wrong based fund raising policy, we may hurt ourselves only. I know my option, if I want to donate odd figure now, I will not be able to donate it now, and I will have to wait till I feel comfortable donating $ 100/- and/or single digit multiplications of $ 100/- but would that be considered a good and wise option?
For an example, I am emotionally charged today and I want to donate $ 61/-(As I may plan that much only..for whatever reasons) but I am not able to donate so I will not donate and say after 4 months I will be able to plan $ 100/- but what if at that time I may not be emotionally charged to donate all together? So end effect would be I will end up donating nothing ( This is just an example..:))
And for the sake of argument if you enrolled yourself $50/- recurring, you did it willingly and so would you change to $ 25/- recurring if $ 25/-option is available to you? (Note: I think most people on this board fear that with having a minimum amount option, most people will turn to that only but that may not be 100% true. and even if it may become true it will end up having more donation flow) For most people answer is no, I believe, They will stick to $ 50/- recurring option as they can afford and they did it willingly. But with current policy we are completely turning away the people who may otherwise donate, for an example $ 20/- monthly-recurring policy may turn 40 new commited donors in whereas $50/- recurring option is creating only 10 donors and thus we may be ending up $ 300/- confirmed donation loss per month. This is just an example and based on assumption that less amount would attract more commited donors.
Having said all this, if majority memebrs and core still feel that this will be the only future standard for accepting donations then as I mentioned above, I will have only one option left and that is to wait till I become comfortable for donating $ 100/- ( I will remain emotionally charged...:))