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  • non-immigrant
    07-17 08:48 PM
    Just moved from another forum. This forum is very active, time sensitive and result oriented.





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  • McLuvin
    04-14 01:18 PM
    Guys, by all means this discussion is itself is like find no mans land.

    I think we should unite among ourselves rather than talking about all these circumstances. Yes I agree with Ganguteli... People got their labor subsituted because they had a oppurtunity and a provision that was legally correct. Instead of sitting and cribbing lets look in a direction which is going to unite all these streams into a big force.

    Com'on guys, stop looking at things from a closed prespective. We need to be open and look at a grand agenda.

    Unity is strength





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  • GCKaMaara
    03-06 05:11 PM
    Bump





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  • GCNirvana007
    08-18 08:55 AM
    RD - August 16th 2007 - TSC processing - August 30th 2007
    PD - Dec 2004 EB2

    Hopefully 3rd time lucky eh

    Just an observation - There always seem to be a gap of 2 months between Receipt date and Notice date.

    So for July 2nd filers, there notice date would be September 2007. But they all got GC last yr when they made it current till 2006 PD. However processing times arent Sept 2007 even now which makes me believe its the receipt date?

    What do you guys think.



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  • sdrblr
    08-26 12:24 PM
    Not sure. She said her name and badge # and said TSC.

    Actually, it has been mentioned several times since past few years that the RD that you see online is infact the ND. This is NOT the date the the CLAIMS3 system sorts by. Whether it takes 2 days for someone to enter the data or 2 months the RD date is fixed - it is the date they receive your application. While entering data they look at this received date stamp and enter that as RD.

    Many National Customer Service (call center employees) only go by what they and you see online and hence give your ND as RD. The ND by far carries no value for sorting and priority purposes.

    Majority of IIO's at service centers will mention RD as the date of relevance as they look directly into the CLAIMS system and are better informed than call center employees or Infopass IIO's !

    I really hope that clears the confusion....

    sdrblr,

    Are you sure you were talking to a TSC IIO, because SR's are only opened by the call center employees.





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  • english_august
    07-05 10:21 PM
    The idea that core wants to float is to have an effective campaign under the IV umbrella. Please come up with more innovative ideas and discuss with core.

    I think this campaign can be pretty effective if we want it to. This idea is not totally outlandish. If you recall, recently fans of the CBS series Jericho sent nuts to the office of CBS when that series was discontinued.

    Sometime back, Indians in the UK sent thousands of unstamped letters to their postal department, protesting a stamp that hurt their religious sentiments.

    Those campaigns worked and so can this. All we need is a little bit of enthusiasm!



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  • jonty_11
    07-05 04:22 PM
    See page 2; Pappus comment on this thread
    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6104&page=2

    It may serve us well to be united under one umbrella - that is IV.





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  • Dipika
    08-25 03:08 PM
    Does anyone have this USCIS link?

    Here you go, USCIS pdf

    http://www.immigration-lawyer-us.com/images/DOS-Visa-Bulletin-Update-071707.pdf



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  • addsf345
    05-11 02:20 PM
    Yes it was stopped in 2007. But it still has its shadow. Back in India Did you leave in area where there was shortage of water? All I said is do not call them as jealous. They have valid grievances. If they want they can fight.
    Profile is not needed for an educated guess. Any way I became a citizen last week.

    from all your invalid and illogical posts, I fail to understand your real motive. Do you want us get divided and fight among ourselves? Hope not! With my limited understanding, what I realized in last 2 years is this: VISA RECAPTURE and RETROGRESSION aka discrimination based on country of birth are the biggest obstacles for those born in countries like India, china, Philippines and Mexico. (Do you want to say that it is okay to be descriminated for being born in one of those countries?) So it does make sense to address these 2 issues. If I have limited energy (read money & support for lobbying, campaign etc), I would spend it towards where it can benefit me most.





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  • axp817
    03-09 12:17 PM
    Just contributed another $50, making my total $100, hope we meet the goal soon.

    The way I see it, I am contributing this money for my own benefit, so it isn't even a 'donation' in that sense.



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  • TwinkleM
    07-17 09:34 PM
    God Bless you all!!! Your efforts & fight against this injustice has brought a great relief to lots of people & their families in USA & back in their home country... Thanx a lot to all of you....

    Hip Hip Hurray!!!!!





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  • Caliber
    03-09 12:24 PM
    Just now paid 50.00 using paypal. With this, my total contribution: 1250.00

    Donation to Support Immigration Voice (User: Caliber)
    $50.00 USD for one month
    Effective Date: Mar. 9, 2009 $50.00 USD



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  • eb2dec2005
    09-13 01:49 PM
    I incorporated the points you made and the revisions are in fuchsia:



    The Ombudsman
    USCIS

    September 10. 2008

    Sir/Madam,

    On behalf of the employment-based legal immigrant community in the United States of America, I am writing to highlight the ongoing egregious inefficiencies in the immigration �services� provided by the USCIS and the DOS. There have been numerous occasions when there have been erratic movements in the DOS published visa bulletin dates. This, as we understand it, is owing to USCIS under- or over-estimating the number of applicants available for adjustment of status. And in the rare instances when the date finally moves forward by a substantial window, USCIS tends to approve the more recent applications as opposed to the ones that were filed earlier. Let me explain with an example: in the July 2008 visa bulletin, the cut-off date for the India EB2 category was 01 April 2004. A month later, the cut-off date for Indian EB2 applicants abruptly moved forward two years and was set at 01 June 2006. Instead of approving applicants who applied in 2004 and 2005, USCIS approved applicants from 2006. Where is the justice in that??? Why bother publishing the cut-off date if approvals are to be randomly allocated???

    We understand we have to stand in line and wait our turn. Each applicant is assigned a priority date which chronologically determines his/her turn for approval. To further complicate matters, once the I-485 is filed, a crop of other dates are issued by the USCIS � a receipt date, a notice date and a processing date. USCIS then takes the liberty to throw random rules at us � �Case adjudication is based on receipt date� �No, we process applications based on notice date�, �Actually, it�s the processing date that determines which applications are adjusted.� !!!

    Please take a moment to consider how these conflicting statements and arbitrary decisions wreak havoc on our morale and psyches? No one, NOT even the USCIS, has a clue as to what exactly is happening in their processing centers. The USCIS has never been able to clearly state the exact number of applications languishing, excuse us, we meant pending, in their �service� centers! We, employment-based immigrants, are tax-paying, law-abiding, educated individuals contributing to America�s knowledge economy - yet we have been subjected to the worst aspects of the US employment-based immigration system. These include:

    1) Extended wait times at each step of the immigration process.
    2) Lack of transparency on the part of USCIS (re: priority date, receipt date, notice date).
    3) Lack of USCIS customer service � once applications are submitted to USCIS they disappear into a black hole. Barring a website where one can nominally check one�s case status (but which in reality remains static for months, even years!) there is no concept of updating an applicant on where his case stands. And this is despite the applicant paying immigration fees that often run into thousands of dollars over the years. We are simply expected to wait in a complete void of information, for however long it may take, until approval.
    4) Lost opportunities owing to the lack of job portability during the process (a time period spanning an average of five years, whereas an applicant from any country besides India gets his/her PR card in under two years).

    Another inconsistency, surfacing in August 2008, begs redressal � while I-485 applicants (albeit those from 2006 instead instead of earlier years) at the TSC were being approved in a steady stream, the NSC was almost completely inactive resulting in only a very few cases being approved prior to August 20th. After this date, the NSC appeared to completely hold off on all I-485 approvals while approvals continued at the TSC. Could somebody please account for this preferential treatment for I-485 applicants at the TSC versus those at the NSC? Furthermore, when complaint faxes were sent in to the NSC in protest, instead of issuing a formal statement to explain their approach, the NSC retaliated by issuing a bunch of RFEs. Is the USCIS trying to intimidate us so that we remain quiescent??

    While we are grateful for the opportunity to partake in the American dream, it is ironic that we arrive in America and find that our freedom is shackled � we are bound to our sponsoring employer from the start to the end of an extremely lengthy process. Although legal immigration reform is our ongoing aim, for now, we sincerely request you to investigate the process whereby the monthly visa bulletin is set and to ensure FIFO (first in, first out) adjustment so that those of us who have been waiting longer receive attention prior to those who have applied later. We want USCIS to be accountable to us, its paying customers.

    We request you to lend us your ear and address these issues so that we are not subjected to them in the future. Kindly note that there remain roughly 15 days until the October 2008 visa bulletin goes into affect. Once October arrives, the dates for Indian EB2 candidates retrogress to 2003. We believe you have the power to help a few more of us who have been waiting, seemingly endlessly, to get out of this immigration limbo.

    Thanking you,

    I really appreciate your initiative in drafting this letter.Please let us know, how each one of us could contribute . Whom should the faxes/emails/pamplets be sent.





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  • texanguy
    08-21 06:00 PM
    how does this information will make IV a great success?


    Thanks for sharing the news buddy. You are a great immigrant.

    Suggestion to all IV member: I hear Sean Hannity saying, "You are a great American" to the callers who shares his beliefs. I think we should start saying, "You are a great immigrant" to our fellow members who are sharing news or putting in extra efforts to make this organization and our cause a success.



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  • Humhongekamyab
    08-21 04:54 PM
    I don't know if the memo thing is correct or not but I did call NSC using POJ method and I was told not to expect anything before Oct 1st.

    I think that was another way of saying that we have received a memo otherwise why will he tell you that.





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  • Sherman_tribiani
    09-07 10:55 PM
    We have known Rosa Park personally and she was a speaker at one of our meetings and let me tell you none of you are close to what she was.

    It looks like you are planning to go to DC. There is big difference between planning and execution. You folks are theoritical and not practical. This time the bus will be empty. You just don't have it in you. Take it from me.

    alterego - Good counter point on the numbers thing.

    Sheman - Think Rosa Parks (only one person). It the bus was empty that day, we certainly would be in a different world.



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  • potatoeater
    04-11 10:59 AM
    I think I know a few with PD < 2002 still waiting....Its hard to give up when you have waited so long....


    Of course there are many, may be thousands who are waiting since 2002 or earlier. But the logic I gave was that these guys must have already filed their their AOS petitions in the interim years.

    My point was that, there is no way so many ancient labors (pre 2001) can get cleared last month and cause depletion of visa numbers. There is only one explanation. These labors were pre-approved.





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  • LostInGCProcess
    02-25 11:52 AM
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    �A journey of a thousand miles begins with a small step.�

    ~ Lao Tzu (570-490 BC), Famous Inspirational quote by the Chinese Founder of Taoism.

    Realizeit, This is a brilliant idea that you have put forth. If what you are proposing happens, boy-o-boy!!! lot of head aches and tension would go away for folks who have applied their I-485 and waiting for a long time. Just imagine if the status changes to "ADJUDICATED-WAITING FOR VISA NUMBER" it would be as good as getting the GC.
    I totally support your effort.

    Thanks for the great idea and I hope this proposal would move forward and not be a dead thread!!!
    :)





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  • greatguy
    12-20 11:01 AM
    Not all members are loging in around this time. Admins, think of sending out emails requesting for funds.





    dtekkedil
    07-06 12:42 PM
    Can we hit the magic 3 figures????

    Folks, I am preparing a draft of the letter to be sent to the media. Any suggestions for points to be included are welcome!

    I plan to include some information about the immigration system, details about the fiasco, how it impacted us, what our flowers are meant for.





    sri1309
    09-12 06:09 PM
    Please do not try to thwart the campaign. We are trying to address a specific issue, which is about blocking approvals when dates are current, and for that, we are using this current fiasco as an example. The USCIS memo specifically talks about EB2 india, china applicants on hold. Since EB3 was listed as U, we cannot do anything about it. If both EB2 and EB3 were current, I would have given a call to both. There is no belittling out here. the Circumstances are like that.
    EB2 and EB3 are working together in the visa re-cpature.
    This is a separate issue, but will be useful when visa re-capture is successful.

    Guys,

    Lets not strictly follow what USCIS did and did not do in memo. We are all seeing the entire drama for the last 3-4 years.
    Every EB3 after a little more experience gets qualified into EB2. Cant the department understand this , which we all do. There is no order. Lets together fight for a common cause and not discrimiate between Eb2 or EB3.

    Commonsense rule is , if you are allowing 10 H1s to be processed, then why are you processing only 2-3 Greencards. What abot the remaining 7 and why should they wait, even after 8 years???.
    Spillover and quotas are all BS.
    Lets raise our voice together and see if they follow some discipline.

    Anyone more than 8-10 years of being in the US and who followed the rules with merit deserves citizenship. Lets voice together as a campaign and get it straight. Yes, I am in the US for 9 years now..
    Sri.



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