chanduv23
05-12 11:11 AM
I ran across this article in one of the websites and read through all the links. I think, there is a strong message in this case, something I have personally faced in the past and do still face at at a smaller level. Though it is not an attempt to help raise money for her. Do please go through those news articles.
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[B]Neelima is a native of AndhraPradesh, and most of you know about her racial discrimination and harassment law suit and her fight against injustice (below are the links for details) in US. On March 26 her case is going to trial in Dallas Federal Court.The legal battle has changed their life completely – financially and emotionally. The harassments, threats, slurs and retaliation that she faced at Caremark left her with no option but to file a discrimination lawsuit against the company. Because of the extreme harassment, she was diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder resulting in her husband quitting his job to take care of her and their two small kids. Their American dream was shattered, they exhausted their savings, sold their house and car just to bear expenses and survive. With no health insurance her medical bills piled up as a result of the hospitalizations, expensive medications and treatments. Despite all these setbacks, she intends to keep the battle alive and keep fighting for a just cause.
Her fight is not against America or Americans, it’s against injustice. She is fighting for the dignity and the rights of every one of us.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/GL14Df02.html http://www.rediff.com/money/2005/dec/15guest.htm http://www.ciol.com/content/news/2005/105120504.asp
Moderators can delete this thread if it is not relevant.
[B]Neelima is a native of AndhraPradesh, and most of you know about her racial discrimination and harassment law suit and her fight against injustice (below are the links for details) in US. On March 26 her case is going to trial in Dallas Federal Court.The legal battle has changed their life completely – financially and emotionally. The harassments, threats, slurs and retaliation that she faced at Caremark left her with no option but to file a discrimination lawsuit against the company. Because of the extreme harassment, she was diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder resulting in her husband quitting his job to take care of her and their two small kids. Their American dream was shattered, they exhausted their savings, sold their house and car just to bear expenses and survive. With no health insurance her medical bills piled up as a result of the hospitalizations, expensive medications and treatments. Despite all these setbacks, she intends to keep the battle alive and keep fighting for a just cause.
Her fight is not against America or Americans, it’s against injustice. She is fighting for the dignity and the rights of every one of us.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/GL14Df02.html http://www.rediff.com/money/2005/dec/15guest.htm http://www.ciol.com/content/news/2005/105120504.asp
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bestia
08-16 05:54 PM
Many of us will be facing this decision and it's good to know the risks and the answers. Imagine you got a GC and now you have a +20k offer from the other company. Staying with your current employer for 6 months will cost you 10k. The question is "does the risk cost 10k?".
This is how I see it, please correct me if I'm wrong. You can be questioned about leaving the company only in two cases: 1. citizenship interview, 2 - investigation/audit. In first case I don't see much problem, as many years will pass, and if you will not keep any documents, I don't see how USCIS will be going back and chasing these 4-5-6 months of your employment.
Investigation is a different story. You have to be ready. The law says that you/your employer had to have intent to work on that position with that job description forever at the moment of AOS. Technically you could change that intent the very next day.
So.. I think this is how it will work. USCIS might request evidence/letters from you/your "after-GC" employer and if they will find something like your resume that you have sent them before getting GC, then you are in trouble. But if you will demonstrate, that let's say you met your "after-GC" employer only after getting GC (let's say at some exhibition) and he offered you right away +50k salary, then I don't see how USCIS is gonna build their case.
This is how I see it, please correct me if I'm wrong. You can be questioned about leaving the company only in two cases: 1. citizenship interview, 2 - investigation/audit. In first case I don't see much problem, as many years will pass, and if you will not keep any documents, I don't see how USCIS will be going back and chasing these 4-5-6 months of your employment.
Investigation is a different story. You have to be ready. The law says that you/your employer had to have intent to work on that position with that job description forever at the moment of AOS. Technically you could change that intent the very next day.
So.. I think this is how it will work. USCIS might request evidence/letters from you/your "after-GC" employer and if they will find something like your resume that you have sent them before getting GC, then you are in trouble. But if you will demonstrate, that let's say you met your "after-GC" employer only after getting GC (let's say at some exhibition) and he offered you right away +50k salary, then I don't see how USCIS is gonna build their case.
gc101
07-18 09:39 AM
Hi,
Here is my situation. I can apply for I-485 since my labor(PD - Mar 05) has cleared and I-140 has been filed.
But, I have a fiancee and we are getting married in September 2007. She is on H1-B but currently traveling in India.
We cannot get married before September 2007, so, as far as I understand, I cannot add her into my AOS filing right now. And, as far as I understand they are gonna retrogress the dates to oblivion after August 17, 2007.
1. So, my question is, would she have to wait until my priority date become current again before she can add herself into my AOS application?
2. Let's say the answer for question 1 is YES. What happens if due to whatever reason, my I-140 gets approved BEFORE my priority date becomes current, so, in that scenario I wouldn't have been able to apply for her AOS anyway? Then, what are our options?
3. Let's say the answer for question 1 is NO. Then, is there a special processing I need to do to add her since my priority dates will not be current anytime soon because of the retrogression?
Please remember, she DOES carry H1-B on her own.
Thank you,
gc101.
Here is my situation. I can apply for I-485 since my labor(PD - Mar 05) has cleared and I-140 has been filed.
But, I have a fiancee and we are getting married in September 2007. She is on H1-B but currently traveling in India.
We cannot get married before September 2007, so, as far as I understand, I cannot add her into my AOS filing right now. And, as far as I understand they are gonna retrogress the dates to oblivion after August 17, 2007.
1. So, my question is, would she have to wait until my priority date become current again before she can add herself into my AOS application?
2. Let's say the answer for question 1 is YES. What happens if due to whatever reason, my I-140 gets approved BEFORE my priority date becomes current, so, in that scenario I wouldn't have been able to apply for her AOS anyway? Then, what are our options?
3. Let's say the answer for question 1 is NO. Then, is there a special processing I need to do to add her since my priority dates will not be current anytime soon because of the retrogression?
Please remember, she DOES carry H1-B on her own.
Thank you,
gc101.
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01-15 03:31 PM
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pmpforgc
10-10 09:24 PM
Friends
I filed My concurrent I-140 and I-485 in Schedule A Group-II , EB-2, Exceptional Ability in Arts and Sciences Application with USCIS recipt date of AUGUST 24, 2006 for both I-140 and I-485?
(1) My I-140 is yet not approved I had asked my attorney to do premium processing. In this new situation should I go for premium processing or hold it back as they will not process my I-485 due to un availability of numbers in Schedule A.
(2)With current retrogession in Schedule A in November visa bulletin What will happen to my I-140 and I-485 processing.
(3)If Schedule A categorey ends after 10/5/2005 as indicated in November visa bulletin what will happen to CASES like mine which were filed after that? does they get transfered to EB-2 ( or EB-3) with their filing dates, set as priority date?
(4) Does establishment of date of 10/5/2005 in NOVEMBER visa bulletin means that they will still process application that they accepted till this NOVEMBER-2006 .
Your experienced help is Gretaly appreciated in this developing situation.
I filed My concurrent I-140 and I-485 in Schedule A Group-II , EB-2, Exceptional Ability in Arts and Sciences Application with USCIS recipt date of AUGUST 24, 2006 for both I-140 and I-485?
(1) My I-140 is yet not approved I had asked my attorney to do premium processing. In this new situation should I go for premium processing or hold it back as they will not process my I-485 due to un availability of numbers in Schedule A.
(2)With current retrogession in Schedule A in November visa bulletin What will happen to my I-140 and I-485 processing.
(3)If Schedule A categorey ends after 10/5/2005 as indicated in November visa bulletin what will happen to CASES like mine which were filed after that? does they get transfered to EB-2 ( or EB-3) with their filing dates, set as priority date?
(4) Does establishment of date of 10/5/2005 in NOVEMBER visa bulletin means that they will still process application that they accepted till this NOVEMBER-2006 .
Your experienced help is Gretaly appreciated in this developing situation.
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kumara121
04-19 01:01 PM
What can Obama do when most of the Republicans are dead against the immigration reform. They didn't allow their own party president to pass the CIR. Do you think they will allow Obama to do it?
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gg_ny
03-18 12:10 PM
So lets do the numbers. If 10,000 of us buy houses worth $300K....So which this plan, for 1 year, we are helping the economy by $ 840 Million. :confused:
US consumes 8.9 million barrels of oil per day. Even if it climbs down, mark it as 8 m.b/day. That is roughly 2900 million barrels per year. If you have a hypothetical 'Bernake tax' of 50 cents per barrel ( distilling to a few pennies per gallon) for one year, one could generate 1500 million dollars. This is without the troublesome IV members getting GC, problems with anti-immigrants in many states, employing more temps at CIS to process the extra 10,000 GC in the queue etc. While I claim not to be smarter than the Fed chairman, even if I am just a local politician, I will bet on taxing gas per barrel than give GC in an election year.
US consumes 8.9 million barrels of oil per day. Even if it climbs down, mark it as 8 m.b/day. That is roughly 2900 million barrels per year. If you have a hypothetical 'Bernake tax' of 50 cents per barrel ( distilling to a few pennies per gallon) for one year, one could generate 1500 million dollars. This is without the troublesome IV members getting GC, problems with anti-immigrants in many states, employing more temps at CIS to process the extra 10,000 GC in the queue etc. While I claim not to be smarter than the Fed chairman, even if I am just a local politician, I will bet on taxing gas per barrel than give GC in an election year.
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gcformeornot
02-15 11:00 AM
I really wish all the desi companies,who get people from India,and put them on bench to find a project ,be banned. They screwed H1B, and in turn all the deserving H1B candidates.
here also they process so many H1s..... for various many people.... skills/no skills... keep them on bench.... inflate resumes....
here also they process so many H1s..... for various many people.... skills/no skills... keep them on bench.... inflate resumes....
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unitednations
04-27 04:17 PM
The above mentioned case was later denied. AAO withdrew the approval. See this link -
http://www.uscis.gov/err/B5%20-%20Members%20of%20the%20Professions%20holding%20Ad vanced%20Degrees%20or%20Aliens%20of%20Exceptional% 20Ability/Decisions_Issued_in_2009/Apr282009_01B5203.pdf
This was a good find. The decision actually opens up more doors then it closes.
USCIS in the past; and specifically Nebraska service center would deny I-140's if you did not have one single source degree equal to U.S. bachelors degree (ie., combination of degrees was not allowed).
this decision basically says that 3+2 will not be considered equal to masters but will be considered to be equal to bachelors degree. However, since the labor didn't allow for bachelors and five years of experience then they consider him to not be qualified for the position.
Looks like 3+2 will still qualify for eb2 but through the bachelors and five year route.
If you look through many of the appeals decisions you will even find contradictory stuff with regards to combination of degrees to get to bachelors equivalency for eb2.
That's why when you are first starting the greencard journey it is safest to go eb3 route and then later give it a try for eb2.
http://www.uscis.gov/err/B5%20-%20Members%20of%20the%20Professions%20holding%20Ad vanced%20Degrees%20or%20Aliens%20of%20Exceptional% 20Ability/Decisions_Issued_in_2009/Apr282009_01B5203.pdf
This was a good find. The decision actually opens up more doors then it closes.
USCIS in the past; and specifically Nebraska service center would deny I-140's if you did not have one single source degree equal to U.S. bachelors degree (ie., combination of degrees was not allowed).
this decision basically says that 3+2 will not be considered equal to masters but will be considered to be equal to bachelors degree. However, since the labor didn't allow for bachelors and five years of experience then they consider him to not be qualified for the position.
Looks like 3+2 will still qualify for eb2 but through the bachelors and five year route.
If you look through many of the appeals decisions you will even find contradictory stuff with regards to combination of degrees to get to bachelors equivalency for eb2.
That's why when you are first starting the greencard journey it is safest to go eb3 route and then later give it a try for eb2.
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GCBy3000
04-12 02:18 PM
Numbers USA
http://www.opensecrets.org/lobbyists/clientsum.asp?txtname=NumbersUSA%2Ecom&year=2006
Medical and Hosptial spends millions in Lobbying. I did not find ALIPAC anywhere.
In January, IV already said that they raised nearly 200K in 2006. Also, there are federal reports on www.opensecrets.org and senate's office of public records about how Immigration Voice spent money. They spent nearly 140,000 in 2006.
I think that is enough transparency. There will be more when they file tax returns.
Its not that people dont trust IV with money. I think people are just fine with waiting for 10 more years for Greencard. That's why, the core group should shut down this nonsense and do something better with their time.
http://www.opensecrets.org/lobbyists/clientsum.asp?txtname=NumbersUSA%2Ecom&year=2006
Medical and Hosptial spends millions in Lobbying. I did not find ALIPAC anywhere.
In January, IV already said that they raised nearly 200K in 2006. Also, there are federal reports on www.opensecrets.org and senate's office of public records about how Immigration Voice spent money. They spent nearly 140,000 in 2006.
I think that is enough transparency. There will be more when they file tax returns.
Its not that people dont trust IV with money. I think people are just fine with waiting for 10 more years for Greencard. That's why, the core group should shut down this nonsense and do something better with their time.
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praveenuppaluri
04-02 02:32 PM
your posts should seriously offend me as I am from A.P but again, are you really worth that I should be upset about your rants.. I don't think so... your title suggests it all.. you acknowledge you are uncontrolled...
coming to your question below - I haven't applied for GC but I plan to soon. and common sense tells me that unless all the ones infront of me get theirs, I should wait for a loooong time and that is enough motivation for me to go to DC rally, work on IV action items, join the state chapter and most important CONTRIBUTE so that IV has the funds that will eventually help me. july 2007 fiasco didn't help me to get my EAD but that doens't mean I have to spill my frustation in bad taste in an educated forum with stupid handle..
if you are NOT planning to apply for GC and go back to your home country - no body is stopping you. you are FREE to move back. H4 dependents can't work and there is no surprize there. thats the rule they had in place from day 1. if you don't like it - do something about it and let us know what you are doing - we might actually support you.
if you think ranting in public forums and showing your frustation on one community is "showing courage".... well.. I hope you get well soon...
Gulti mentality was something that guy(malibuguy) was talking about . Thats what i meant by Gulti mentality . I just started with a simple question "WHATS THE MOTIVATION FOR CONTRIBUTION(MONEY AS WELL AS TIME) FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T APPLIED FOR GC " !! Was that offensive ? I don't need answers for specific questions. I just need to know what IV is all about ? ? BTW, i have balls to ask anything to anybody if it makes sense(immigration officer is not making rules) .
coming to your question below - I haven't applied for GC but I plan to soon. and common sense tells me that unless all the ones infront of me get theirs, I should wait for a loooong time and that is enough motivation for me to go to DC rally, work on IV action items, join the state chapter and most important CONTRIBUTE so that IV has the funds that will eventually help me. july 2007 fiasco didn't help me to get my EAD but that doens't mean I have to spill my frustation in bad taste in an educated forum with stupid handle..
if you are NOT planning to apply for GC and go back to your home country - no body is stopping you. you are FREE to move back. H4 dependents can't work and there is no surprize there. thats the rule they had in place from day 1. if you don't like it - do something about it and let us know what you are doing - we might actually support you.
if you think ranting in public forums and showing your frustation on one community is "showing courage".... well.. I hope you get well soon...
Gulti mentality was something that guy(malibuguy) was talking about . Thats what i meant by Gulti mentality . I just started with a simple question "WHATS THE MOTIVATION FOR CONTRIBUTION(MONEY AS WELL AS TIME) FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T APPLIED FOR GC " !! Was that offensive ? I don't need answers for specific questions. I just need to know what IV is all about ? ? BTW, i have balls to ask anything to anybody if it makes sense(immigration officer is not making rules) .
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485Mbe4001
05-13 03:50 PM
EB migration was a added almost as an after thought to the family based immigration bill. Current or future considerations were not taken into account when they wrote the bill, the prime focus was (is and will be) the family based immigration as they get the most votes, they have the most 'heartbreaking' stories. I understand your point. I also dont want to argue about how USCIS distributes overflow. I have been dealt a hand i am dealing with it.
I do want to say that nothing will happen unless you make efforts to make it happen. We need to talk to the lawmakers about our problems. Half of them still think we are talking about H1 and launch into a spin about outsourcing. The H1 lobby has major companies backing them, anti immigration groups are flush with cash and are very vocal. Hispanic caucus is a big group. What about us, do we just keep discussing issues or try to educate people on our problems...if we dont we will stay a minority with no voice, simply pawns used and abused by others.
As I see, most of you are missing the point. Instead of trying to understand, you showing the maturity of mind. The whole purpose of EB immigration is to meet the Demand(Job opportunities) vs the supply(immediately available candidates).
When there are a lot of opportunities exists for EB3 level(skilled profession) and less opportunities exists for EB1(Ph.D/Executive Director), USCIS should give more no. of Visas to EB3, then EB1.
A country cannot be built with only the kings, and not even a home can be built with only Ph.Ds(Nobody do the dishes).
I do want to say that nothing will happen unless you make efforts to make it happen. We need to talk to the lawmakers about our problems. Half of them still think we are talking about H1 and launch into a spin about outsourcing. The H1 lobby has major companies backing them, anti immigration groups are flush with cash and are very vocal. Hispanic caucus is a big group. What about us, do we just keep discussing issues or try to educate people on our problems...if we dont we will stay a minority with no voice, simply pawns used and abused by others.
As I see, most of you are missing the point. Instead of trying to understand, you showing the maturity of mind. The whole purpose of EB immigration is to meet the Demand(Job opportunities) vs the supply(immediately available candidates).
When there are a lot of opportunities exists for EB3 level(skilled profession) and less opportunities exists for EB1(Ph.D/Executive Director), USCIS should give more no. of Visas to EB3, then EB1.
A country cannot be built with only the kings, and not even a home can be built with only Ph.Ds(Nobody do the dishes).
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01-13 09:06 PM
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eb3retro
04-11 10:42 AM
Question gurus... I have a xerox copy of my approved I-140. Will this be enough to port the priority date? or do you need the original copy to be submitted along with the new I-140 application when you request portability of older priority date?? please clarify.
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12-11 09:24 PM
i am not sure if any one of you has tried donating blood in the US, i have, and have been refused a couple of time for reasons ranging from
you have been to india too recently, need 12 months of continued presence in the US
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our records show that last year India had an outbreak of Malaria and unfortunately you mentioned that you were in India then...
right you shouldnt have travelled in the past 12 mths - otherwise its fine. i've done it a couple of times
you have been to india too recently, need 12 months of continued presence in the US
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our records show that last year India had an outbreak of Malaria and unfortunately you mentioned that you were in India then...
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ramaonline
09-06 02:23 PM
We are planning to visit India in Nov 08 after three years. I would be using my AP to return after 4 weeks. My wife is planning to stay there for seven months and plans to return using AP. Based on what I see on this thread, seems like it would be very risky for my wife to use AP to re-enter after a seven month period.
I'm still working on H1B and my wife on H4 ( although she has an EAD, she doesnt work). We have H1B approval valid till March 09. My wife would be re-entering in June 09. I'm in the process of renewing my H1 and H4.
If my wife gets her H4 stamping then she can re-enter in June 09 using H4 visa. I plan to re-enter using AP in Nov 08.
I am also planning to consult my lawyer. Would this work out? Gurus, pls. help
No need to use AP to travel when you are in valid H1 status, and are continuing to work with the GC sponsoring employer. You can use the valid h1 stamp to reenter without any risk to the pending 485
Spouse can travel and reenter on H4 even if she has a valid AP provided that you maintain H1 status. Note that H4 is a derivative of H1 status. H4 status ends once EAD is used for work purposes. If the EAD is used for work, then it is safest to travel and re-enter on AP.
I'm still working on H1B and my wife on H4 ( although she has an EAD, she doesnt work). We have H1B approval valid till March 09. My wife would be re-entering in June 09. I'm in the process of renewing my H1 and H4.
If my wife gets her H4 stamping then she can re-enter in June 09 using H4 visa. I plan to re-enter using AP in Nov 08.
I am also planning to consult my lawyer. Would this work out? Gurus, pls. help
No need to use AP to travel when you are in valid H1 status, and are continuing to work with the GC sponsoring employer. You can use the valid h1 stamp to reenter without any risk to the pending 485
Spouse can travel and reenter on H4 even if she has a valid AP provided that you maintain H1 status. Note that H4 is a derivative of H1 status. H4 status ends once EAD is used for work purposes. If the EAD is used for work, then it is safest to travel and re-enter on AP.
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02-23 08:06 PM
wa ever suits u..pea brain..
there was nothing in my post to get offended abt...
the book was called Q&A.. how do u end up with a title of SlumDOG..
u jump me.,..just because i call the bluff of fake liberals on this board..
You can't even write a single sentence right and you call me pea brain? "Wa, U, abt, pickel, alcohall" that’s shows me where you stand. Anyhow, I don't give a rat’s ass about what you have with Gvenkat, but don't generalize and write some fucked up nonsense. I fully know who you refer when you say "Curd rice and Pickle" so don’t assume that everyone else is a moron and that you are above everyone.
How the heck you assume that I am fake liberal? What you state and what you accuse others are 2 different things, first go read some books and improve your knowledge and then come here. No wonder you choose Pointless as your screen name!!!
there was nothing in my post to get offended abt...
the book was called Q&A.. how do u end up with a title of SlumDOG..
u jump me.,..just because i call the bluff of fake liberals on this board..
You can't even write a single sentence right and you call me pea brain? "Wa, U, abt, pickel, alcohall" that’s shows me where you stand. Anyhow, I don't give a rat’s ass about what you have with Gvenkat, but don't generalize and write some fucked up nonsense. I fully know who you refer when you say "Curd rice and Pickle" so don’t assume that everyone else is a moron and that you are above everyone.
How the heck you assume that I am fake liberal? What you state and what you accuse others are 2 different things, first go read some books and improve your knowledge and then come here. No wonder you choose Pointless as your screen name!!!
logiclife
09-25 07:22 PM
In theory, the idea that a gathering of even 200 people in company's parking lot (Cisco, goolge, microsoft) - IS GREAT.
Immigration Voice has always appreciated efforts of members who get employers involved.
However, I am inclined to believe that company HR will resist such activity on their own premises, especially during business hours or even lunch time. That's because its loss in terms of productivity and distractions for all employees, even those who are US citizens.
BUT...
If someone pulls this off and if there is a gathering to protest green card delays at any of these companies -- Cisco, Oracle, Microsoft, Google, Intel, Amazon...anyone...THEN IV leadership will fly to such an even from wherever they have to fly and attend it at a moments notice (provided your employer allows us in your buildings/premises of course).
Not only that, if you can pull it off, then IV will honor you will a "IMMIGRATION VOICE MEDAL OF HONOR" for doing that. Its a square medal with imprint of GC on one side and EAD card on another side. :):)
So if you can, by all means, pursue that opportunity and email me or Aman on how we can help you do that. Microsoft has 3500 employees in green card wait line in Seattle alone. Cisco is also hundreds of employees in San Jose alone (and Cisco employees is one of my favorite groups of people in IV, they have shown up every where IV has done anything...must be something in the water out there in the bay area, its a land of activists...).
Thanks.
Immigration Voice has always appreciated efforts of members who get employers involved.
However, I am inclined to believe that company HR will resist such activity on their own premises, especially during business hours or even lunch time. That's because its loss in terms of productivity and distractions for all employees, even those who are US citizens.
BUT...
If someone pulls this off and if there is a gathering to protest green card delays at any of these companies -- Cisco, Oracle, Microsoft, Google, Intel, Amazon...anyone...THEN IV leadership will fly to such an even from wherever they have to fly and attend it at a moments notice (provided your employer allows us in your buildings/premises of course).
Not only that, if you can pull it off, then IV will honor you will a "IMMIGRATION VOICE MEDAL OF HONOR" for doing that. Its a square medal with imprint of GC on one side and EAD card on another side. :):)
So if you can, by all means, pursue that opportunity and email me or Aman on how we can help you do that. Microsoft has 3500 employees in green card wait line in Seattle alone. Cisco is also hundreds of employees in San Jose alone (and Cisco employees is one of my favorite groups of people in IV, they have shown up every where IV has done anything...must be something in the water out there in the bay area, its a land of activists...).
Thanks.
lost_in_migration
05-14 08:05 AM
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